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    Re: Holder speaks out against 'Stand Your Ground' laws after Zimmerman verdict

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    I'll believe Holder in being sincere in his position when he calls on law enforcement to have a duty to retreat from violent criminals...
    I believe he believes that he is sincere too. That is the sad part.
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    Re: Holder speaks out against 'Stand Your Ground' laws after Zimmerman verdict

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Well, he made it his business. Oh well.
    On what grounds?
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Holder speaks out against 'Stand Your Ground' laws after Zimmerman verdict

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Well, that is what the AG was trying to address...
    I was confused because instead of quoting the OP, you quoted a post where Zimmerman wasn't being mentioned at all.

    In any case, while Zimmerman didn't specifically invoke SYG, language from the law was included in the jury instructions and Juror B37, who spoke to the media yesterday, said that they considered it in deliberations. Beyond that, many people who feel that Zimmerman's actions were inappropriate believe that SYG laws facilitate actions like his moreso than regular self-defense laws.

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    Re: Holder speaks out against 'Stand Your Ground' laws after Zimmerman verdict

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    On what grounds?
    Don't ask me. Ask him.

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    Re: Holder speaks out against 'Stand Your Ground' laws after Zimmerman verdict

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    From the LA Times:



    It has begun.

    What do you think?
    I don't give a crap what a guy that should not be in his position, but rather in prison, has to say. He has always been anti-gun for civilians, and always will work to those ends.
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    Re: Holder speaks out against 'Stand Your Ground' laws after Zimmerman verdict

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    As an American I have the right to defend myself, my family, and my property. That right is granted me by God, not politicians....Period.
    Congratulations. This, again, is off topic and, in turn, random.

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    Re: Holder speaks out against 'Stand Your Ground' laws after Zimmerman verdict

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    I don't give a crap what a guy that should not be in his position, but rather in prison, has to say. He has always been anti-gun for civilians, and always will work to those ends.
    Okay, well he's not in prison now. And given that he is the Attorney General, you should probably care about what he has to say since his actions might affect you. But, if you don't care, then that's better for him because that's one less person he has to deal with in his quest to reexamine SYG.

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    Re: Holder speaks out against 'Stand Your Ground' laws after Zimmerman verdict

    Look at Holder's audience. That says a lot. NAACP - diving for political points.
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    If certain gun guys are insulted by that? Good, they should be ashamed: the rest of US are sick and tired of having our intelligence insulted[/i].



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    Re: Holder speaks out against 'Stand Your Ground' laws after Zimmerman verdict

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    I was confused because instead of quoting the OP, you quoted a post where Zimmerman wasn't being mentioned at all.

    In any case, while Zimmerman didn't specifically invoke SYG, language from the law was included in the jury instructions and Juror B37, who spoke to the media yesterday, said that they considered it in deliberations. Beyond that, many people who feel that Zimmerman's actions were inappropriate believe that SYG laws facilitate actions like his moreso than regular self-defense laws.
    Actually SYG laws require instructions as to aggression by either party which, since that was not addressed, is the reason for some other threads here. What inappropriate actions were taken other than those performed by the aggressor?
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Holder speaks out against 'Stand Your Ground' laws after Zimmerman verdict

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    From the LA Times:



    It has begun.

    What do you think?
    I think if the racial makeup of TM and GZ were reversed, Mr. Holder would be praising the Stand Your Ground concept.

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