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    Re: Holder speaks out against 'Stand Your Ground' laws after Zimmerman verdict

    If you'd read the jury instructions, you would know stand your ground was mentioned in them. The juror did absolutely nothing wrong.
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    Re: Holder speaks out against 'Stand Your Ground' laws after Zimmerman verdict

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
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    Is he out of his mind?

    what he is saying is tuck tail and run, take it in the rear, runaway and allow those who bring violence to your doorstep to know that they can push the envelop to the extreme because your first reaction is going to be FLIGHT not FIGHT. He's saying allow the predators to stay predators and for you to always be the prey...

    I'll have none of it.
    The below quote is from the juror interviewed on Anderson Cooper
    "He could have ... When George confronted him, and he could have walked away and gone home.
    So George in a locked car and armed with the police on the way ... could not take pause and follow instructions from law enforcement yet ... the juror says Trayvon should have "When George confronted him, and he could have walked away and gone home " ...?

    In bold are her exact words.

    Do you think unarmed teens being followed have different fear reactions than a husky big guy who knows the police are en-route with a car and armed? We do not even know any account but George's fishy tale.
    Last edited by Turin; 07-17-13 at 12:05 AM.

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    Re: Holder speaks out against 'Stand Your Ground' laws after Zimmerman verdict

    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    The below quote is from the juror interviewed on anderson cooper


    So George in a locked car and armed with the police on the way ... could not take pause and follow instructions from law enforcement yet ... the juror says Trayvon should have "When George confronted him, and he could have walked away and gone home " ...?

    In bold are her exact words.

    Do you think unarmed teens being followed have different fear reactions than a husky big guy who knows the police are en-route with a car and armed? We do not even know any account but George's fishy tale.
    No, there is a forensic account. And what we also know is that the jury delivered its verdict.

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    Re: Holder speaks out against 'Stand Your Ground' laws after Zimmerman verdict

    Deflection ... do you agree with the juror that Trayvon should have ..."When George confronted him, and he could have walked away and gone home".

    The forensics do not add up. The verdict was not based on forensics according to the juror but because they thought George was scared.

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    Re: Holder speaks out against 'Stand Your Ground' laws after Zimmerman verdict

    I'm not deflecting; I'm stating facts. Your opinion doesn't count, nor does mine, and we now have the words of one of six jurors. That's all. I am satisfied that the jury did a thoughtful job and am therefore accept the verdict. You should too--because the verdict is in.

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    Re: Holder speaks out against 'Stand Your Ground' laws after Zimmerman verdict

    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    Deflection ... do you agree with the juror that Trayvon should have ..."When George confronted him, and he could have walked away and gone home".

    The forensics do not add up. The verdict was not based on forensics according to the juror but because they thought George was scared.
    Martin is dead because he made the mistake of attacking an armed man.
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    Re: Holder speaks out against 'Stand Your Ground' laws after Zimmerman verdict

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I'm not deflecting; I'm stating facts. Your opinion doesn't count, nor does mine, and we now have the words of one of six jurors. That's all. I am satisfied that the jury did a thoughtful job and am therefore accept the verdict. You should too--because the verdict is in.
    The post was in response to the poster Chez believing a person should not have to run yet the juror states clearly

    "When George confronted him, and he could have walked away and gone home " ...?

    The jurors are based the verdict on their belief that George was scared ... it was an injustice and you know it. This is a political forum and we are discussing if a person should just run when confronted like the juror said of Trayvon.
    Last edited by Turin; 07-17-13 at 12:31 AM.

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    Re: Holder speaks out against 'Stand Your Ground' laws after Zimmerman verdict

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Martin is dead because he made the mistake of attacking an armed man.

    Martin is dead because he walked home in the rain in a hoodie and an armed man in a locked car with the police on their way continued pursuit while whining "they always get away".

    There is no account of the last few moments and yet ... the juror states clearly "When George confronted him, and he could have walked away and gone home " ...?

    I heard the tapes and Trayvon was walking and George even describes the pursuit. Eventually when George was close enough Trayvon turned and stood his ground.

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    Re: Holder speaks out against 'Stand Your Ground' laws after Zimmerman verdict

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I'm not deflecting; I'm stating facts. Your opinion doesn't count, nor does mine, and we now have the words of one of six jurors. That's all. I am satisfied that the jury did a thoughtful job and am therefore accept the verdict. You should too--because the verdict is in.
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    Re: Holder speaks out against 'Stand Your Ground' laws after Zimmerman verdict

    Shouldn't the title of this thread be "Holder Speaks out Against States Rights?"

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