Page 25 of 28 FirstFirst ... 152324252627 ... LastLast
Results 241 to 250 of 272

Thread: Texas Senate passes sweeping new abortion restrictions[W:240]

  1. #241
    Global Moderator
    The Truth is out there.
    Kal'Stang's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Bonners Ferry ID USA
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    32,867
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: Texas Senate passes sweeping new abortion restrictions

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    That is really what is it all about. Forcing women to resort to dangerous illegal abortions like in other countries where it is illegal. The pro-illegal abortionists strike again.



    Abortion Rates Are Higher In Countries Where Procedure Is Illegal, Study Finds
    No offense bud but this was a completely wasted post. Anti-abortionists simply do not care enough about woman to put her life and well being before that of a clump of cells and later a fetus.
    I have an answer for everything...you may not like the answer or it may not satisfy your curiosity..but it will still be an answer. ~ Kal'Stang

    My mind and my heart are saying I'm in my twenties. My body is pointing at my mind and heart and laughing its ass off. ~ Kal'Stang

  2. #242
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Last Seen
    09-27-16 @ 12:59 PM
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    5,189

    Re: Texas Senate passes sweeping new abortion restrictions

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I am appalled.
    I don't care what you are!

  3. #243
    Question authority
    Grand Mal's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    on an island off the left coast of Canada
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:39 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    16,501
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: Texas Senate passes sweeping new abortion restrictions

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post


    That argument is.... fail. The fact that people break the law is not an argument against laws, any more than the fact that people commit rape means that we should legalize rape in order to reduce the violence associated with it.
    My point was that making laws against abortion won't end the practice. That's why I quoted the post I was commenting on.

  4. #244
    Global Moderator
    Moderator

    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    36,923

    Re: Texas Senate passes sweeping new abortion restrictions

    It's also possible that both women and men will be more responsible about birth control and about their partners. Here's an interesting article: Abortion Promises Unfulfilled | Public Discourse

  5. #245
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Canada, Costa Rica
    Last Seen
    05-16-16 @ 09:45 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    31,645

    Re: Texas Senate passes sweeping new abortion restrictions

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    It's also possible that both women and men will be more responsible about birth control and about their partners. Here's an interesting article: Abortion Promises Unfulfilled | Public Discourse
    It seems that society might have suffered when personal responsibility took a back seat to the pleasure of the immediate.

    Can anyone really defend the idea that it takes longer than five months for a woman to decide whether she wants an abortion or not? Is it the bimbo factor at play here?

  6. #246
    Sage
    minnie616's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 08:29 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    14,952

    Re: Texas Senate passes sweeping new abortion restrictions[W:240]

    I think birth control changed the sexual morals more than legal abortion.

    The reason there still a lot of unwanted children is because only about one half of unwanted pregnancies ( actually a bit less than that since some churches and some pro lifers guilt a lot of women into continuing an unwanted pregnany ) result in an abortion.

    In the blue states where more women wait until they are in their late to get married , there are less divorces, more stable families and less single mothers.


    If people want stable families back they have to also understand sometimes that means a girl/ woman delays becoming a wife and a mother until she has an education and/ or a career.
    When it comes to matters of reproduce health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

  7. #247
    Sage
    cpwill's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    USofA
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 11:03 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    57,148

    Re: Texas Senate passes sweeping new abortion restrictions[W:240]

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    I think birth control changed the sexual morals more than legal abortion.

    The reason there still a lot of unwanted children is because only about one half of unwanted pregnancies ( actually a bit less than that since some churches and some pro lifers guilt a lot of women into continuing an unwanted pregnany ) result in an abortion.

    In the blue states where more women wait until they are in their late to get married , there are less divorces, more stable families and less single mothers.

    That's an interesting statistic, given New York, California, et. al. Would you mind posting a link to it?

  8. #248
    Sage
    minnie616's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 08:29 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    14,952

    Re: Texas Senate passes sweeping new abortion restrictions[W:240]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    That's an interesting statistic, given New York, California, et. al. Would you mind posting a link to it?
    From This:

    There's a family-values divide between red states and blue states, two researchers say, but the differences might surprise people on both sides of the political spectrum.
    The states that voted Democratic in the last two presidential elections have the lowest rates of divorce and teen pregnancies.
    And the red states had the highest.

    One of those researchers, June Carbone of the University of Missouri-Kansas City, tells host Guy Raz what she thinks is the deciding factor:
    Women in blue states wait later to get married and have kids.


    TRANSCRIPT:


    GUY RAZ, host:

    We're back with ALL THINGS CONSIDERED from NPR News. I'm Guy Raz.

    Back during the 2008 presidential campaign, Sarah Palin visited a small town in North Carolina, a place she called the real America.

    (Soundbite of applause)

    Ms. SARAH PALIN (Former Republican Governor, Alaska): We believe that the best of America is in the small towns that we get to visit and in these wonderful little pockets of what I call real America, being here with all of you hardworking, very patriotic, very pro-America.

    RAZ: The real America was a kind of code phrase for parts of the country where people preach family values and respect the institution of marriage.
    {b}But somehow, it's unlikely Sarah Palin was referring to Massachusetts or New Jersey.
    And yet according to a new book, the states with the lowest rates of divorce and teen pregnancies are so-called blue states like Massachusetts, states that voted Democratic in 2004 and 2008.

    The book is "Red Families v. Blue Families" and its co-author, June Carbone, a professor of law at the University of Missouri, Kansas City, is with me.

    Welcome.

    Professor JUNE CARBONE (Co-Author, "Red Families v. Blue Families): Delighted to be here.

    RAZ: In the book, you talk about the blue family system and the red family systems. Define the terms here. What's the blue family system, and what's the red family system?

    Prof. CARBONE:[B] The single biggest difference between the two is the notion of age of marriage or childbearing.

    We see this blue system as one that says grow up first, be established, be financially sound, then have a family.
    The red family system says it's very important to avoid too much premarital sexuality.
    So you're going to move lockstep from school into employment and marriage fairly soon.
    You're not going to wait until you're fully established. You're going to get married and have children younger.

    RAZ: And now, you found that the lowest divorce rates in the country tend to be in blue states. The highest divorce rates tend to be in states that voted - so-called red states that voted Republican in 2004, 2008.
    I think a lot of people would be surprised by that. It seems to suggest that places that are more politically left of center tend to reflect what we might regard as having more traditional family values.

    Prof. CARBONE: We were astonished to find how closely the vote, especially in 2004, to a strong degree in 2008, maps on to family structure. Here's the thing that's happened in the blue world. What you have is, again, a system, far more independence. And we find that people who do marry later late 20s, early 30s you've got a pretty good sense who's going to be successful and stable and a good marriage partner at 30. You're still guessing at 22...
    read more:
    Red Families Vs. Blue Families : NPR
    When it comes to matters of reproduce health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

  9. #249
    Sage
    minnie616's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 08:29 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    14,952

    Re: Texas Senate passes sweeping new abortion restrictions[W:240]

    Link to divorce rate or teen moms US map :
    just click on teen moms or divorce rate for map.

    Red Blue States Comparison Map - election, education, divorce, racism, money, sports, obesity and more
    When it comes to matters of reproduce health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

  10. #250
    Sage
    cpwill's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    USofA
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 11:03 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    57,148

    Re: Texas Senate passes sweeping new abortion restrictions[W:240]

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Link to divorce rate or teen moms US map :
    just click on teen moms or divorce rate for map.

    Red Blue States Comparison Map - election, education, divorce, racism, money, sports, obesity and more
    You seem to be conflating teen mothers with single mothers. But this information is interesting.

    Problem for your argument, though: lots of these deep single-parenthood and high teen-pregnancy states seem to be ones with large african american populations, that demographic being the one most likely to demonstrate the characteristics under discussion and also the most solid "blue" constituency out there. I would bet once you start breaking down past "state" and past "by how the state overall voted in a presidential election", the correlation highlighted here disappears pretty quickly.

Page 25 of 28 FirstFirst ... 152324252627 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •