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    Re: Texas Senate passes sweeping new abortion restrictions

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    It's not. Go down to Wal-Greens and pick up your prescription or OTC.
    The pills for chemical abortions are given in clinics. The ones they are forcing to close because they have no hospital privileges.

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    Re: Texas Senate passes sweeping new abortion restrictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    It's about making people be responsible for the consequences of their actions.
    That's soooooo funny, Tigger. I can think of a million ways people need to be responsible...and aren't.

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    Re: Texas Senate passes sweeping new abortion restrictions

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    The title of the article you cited is clearly misleading. It basically says that liberal abortion policy leads to less abortions. But reading the article, it is made clear that no such causation is presented in the study; instead, the study illustrates that liberal birth control policy leads to less unwanted pregnancies and thus less abortions. I don't think we even need a study to figure that out. Thus, as the study was basically useless, a provocative title became the most important aspect.
    What is it about the fact that most abortions are performed in countries where it is illegal that escapes you? Does that make you want abortions illegal here too?

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    Re: Texas Senate passes sweeping new abortion restrictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    The mandatory regulations...which is a funny thing
    coming from conservatives...you know REGULATIONS, which to often cry about. But when it comes to regulating women's rights to control their own reproductive roles...they got no problem.
    * Sigh *...

    More Talking Points ?

    Can't you extend your self and think objectively ? Instead of this Liberal Hive Mind type reaction to every post ?

    Conservatives believe in the rule of law, and just because a fringe lunatic group managed to make Abortion legal doesn't mean it's still not killing a human.

    At 19 Weeks it stops a beating heart, at 5 weeks it stops a human heart.

    If some Obama voter shoots a pregnant women and kills her AND her baby, there are two murder charges against the assailant.

    How do you guys justify that away ?

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    Re: Texas Senate passes sweeping new abortion restrictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    RA...you know we've had numerous discussions on this. And as I frequently point out. And I repeat this so many times. But over 60% of all abortions are done 9 weeks and under, which means a fetus is as small or smaller than a kidney bean, about 25% fall within the 10 to 12 week range...and even at the 12 stage of develop a fetus has only got a primal brain stem and isn't capable of pain or being aware of itself or its environment. So over 85% of abortions occur when fetuses are in very early stages of development.

    And the certainly lets give credit were credit is due...and should be appreciated by most pro-birth. Only 1.5% of abortions are 20 weeks and up for reasons related to developmental problems fetuses, still births, and health and life issues for the woman.

    And...most conceptions are brought to full term. One should never fear about mature fetuses being aborted and abused.
    If it's so rare, why is everybody losing their ****? I don't support any elective abortions past 12 weeks. After that, exceptions should be made for medical cases of the mother or extreme deformities for the child.

    If elective abortions simply aren't happening late, there should be no problem restricting them. I think most of you are just afraid it will prevent women who have medical cases or fetuses with deformities from getting an abortion. We should structure our laws so that this is not the case. Simply allowing all abortions with zero oversight is not the solution to make that happen.


    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    The pills for chemical abortions are given in clinics. The ones they are forcing to close because they have no hospital privileges.
    Ok? The morning after is still available. If they want an abortion later than that, they need to find a clinic that can meet the regulations.
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    Re: Texas Senate passes sweeping new abortion restrictions

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    If it's so rare, why is everybody losing their ****? I don't support any elective abortions past 12 weeks. After that, exceptions should be made for medical cases of the mother or extreme deformities for the child.

    If elective abortions simply aren't happening late, there should be no problem restricting them. I think most of you are just afraid it will prevent women who have medical cases or fetuses with deformities from getting an abortion. We should structure our laws so that this is not the case. Simply allowing all abortions with zero oversight is not the solution to make that happen.




    Ok? The morning after is still available. If they want an abortion later than that, they need to find a clinic that can meet the regulations.
    You make the claims about late abortions...why is everybody's **** so hitting the fan?

    Please...lets get to the bottom of this nonsense. Where are the statistics that show all of these late term abortions are happening? That's just not the case. Your buying some really bad Kool Aid.

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    Re: Texas Senate passes sweeping new abortion restrictions

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    I already knew that, that's why I call your kind Pro-illegal abortionists. Punishing women is your game.
    Nope. Forcing people to be responsible for their choices is our "game".

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    That's soooooo funny, Tigger. I can think of a million ways people need to be responsible...and aren't.
    I would tend to agree with you on that. That isn't a reason to allow people to continue to be irresponsible in one way simply because they aren't held responsible in another.

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    Re: Texas Senate passes sweeping new abortion restrictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    You make the claims about late abortions...why is everybody's **** so hitting the fan?

    Please...lets get to the bottom of this nonsense. Where are the statistics that show all of these late term abortions are happening? That's just not the case. Your buying some really bad Kool Aid.
    I'm not saying they're happening in large numbers, never have. It's not often that somebody is stabbed in the face with a pencil. Should it be legal to do because it doesn't happen often?

    You still never answered my questions.

    - If it never happens, why is it a big deal if it's outlawed?
    - Why can't we just reform the law so that medical exceptions are always allowed?
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    Re: Texas Senate passes sweeping new abortion restrictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Nope. Forcing people to be responsible for their choices is our "game".



    I would tend to agree with you on that. That isn't a reason to allow people to continue to be irresponsible in one way simply because they aren't held responsible in another.
    Great...you figure out a way to fund "The Bedroom Sex Monitoring Police" nation-wide and I'll give you all of the moral support I can muster.

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    Re: Texas Senate passes sweeping new abortion restrictions

    Time to break out the ol' clothes hanger and vacuum cleaner.

    Myself, I always side with the babies. I'm not a clinic protester but I don't have a lot of love for the abortion industry. I always stood responsible, as did my wife, for our offspring. But that's just me.

    But I do know a lot of women in Texas, both rightwing and leftwing, are pretty pissed off about all the guys dicking around with their uterus and reproduction policies. That will make Texas go blue even faster, I predict.

    Face it. Women are going to abort one way or another. If Texas prefers them to do it in a back alley instead of a sterile clinic with trained professionals, so be it.

    If I thought this legislation would save one baby's life, I would be persuaded to support it. But it's just a bunch of political mumbo jumbo used for grandstand posturing. Oh well. I don't live in Texas anymore. And, aside from funerals of my direct Texan family, I have no intention of ever returning there so as far as I am concerned, they can do whatever they want.

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