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    Re: Texas Senate confiscates tampons while debating anti-abortion bill [W:155]

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Were any guns and bullets thrown? Did anyone take off their clothes and throw them? What about dentures? Now unless security was actually taking the tampons out of the women(!!!), tampons could also potentially be thrown. Were cell phones taken because those could be thrown as well.
    The two articles I read weren't too clear on other items, excepting that apparently a small number of jars containing urine and feces were confiscated...one mentioned a box of energy bars...
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    Re: Texas Senate confiscates tampons while debating anti-abortion bill [W:155]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Anything can be a "potential projectile"... But hey remember things that can kill people such as guns were still cool but, guns dont kill people, but then i guess tampons can hurt people..
    Really beside the point - my point is, they were not specifically targeting feminine hygiene items for some arcane reason....which is why I took issue with the title of the OP's linked article...

    It's just misleading.
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    Re: Guns Yes, Tampons NO! Welcome to Texas, Y'all!

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    If there had been legitimate intel that the protesters were planning to throw tampons at legislators, the order makes a bit more sense don't you think? Just as they might well have barred people from bringing in sackloads of Beanie Babies if the rumor had been they were going to throw those...
    They were senate guards, not Republicans. I suppose they'll tell there aren't any Democrats in the Texas Senate.
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    Re: Texas Senate confiscates tampons while debating anti-abortion bill [W:155]

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I feel kind of creepy pushing the like button on that. Those pesky radical republicans are at it again.
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    Re: Guns Yes, Tampons NO! Welcome to Texas, Y'all!

    Quote Originally Posted by Morrigi View Post
    @Glen Contrarian

    Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it. There are oh so many quotes from decades, centuries, and civilizations past that show how constant standing armies and constant war cause states to decay and eventually collapse. Even in The Art of War, Sun Tzu says "There is no instance of a nation having benefited from prolonged warfare."
    The key word is "prolonged". If you'd really read Sun Tzu's the Art of War, you'd have seen that he was quite "pro-standing-army". In fact, that's how he got his first job as general. He offered his services to the local king, and the king told him, "if you can get my concubines to act as if they were in the army, I'll accept you". Tzu ordered the concubines into ranks and attempted to drill them, and of course they giggled and paid him not so much attention. So Tzu said, "If the army fails to obey the general's orders, it is the general's fault because he has failed to ensure discipline among the ranks" (or words to that effect - I'm doing this from memory), and ordered one of them - the king's favorite - to be beheaded. The king tried to intervene to save his favorite concubine, and Tzu looked at him and said, "It is obvious the king does not want a proper general, for he insists on interfering in the general's efforts to maintain discipline in the ranks." The king realized he had no honorable choice and allowed Tzu to proceed in the beheading. After the concubine was beheaded, the rest of the concubines - each shedding tears of terror and sadness - performed the drill commands quite well.

    So...got any other quotes on war?

    Also, Sun Tzu - as is made obvious by his descriptions of the importance of spies and intelligence - would obviously have thought my fellow progressives (and libertarians like yourself) as quite silly concerning the current brouhaha over a certain traitor named Edward Snowden. I am progressive - very liberal - and would love to slash our defense budget, starting with my - MY - beloved aircraft carriers (it's a retired Navy thing)...but when it comes to our intelligence services, I strongly disagree with my fellow progressives - Snowden and Manning are traitors.

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    Re: Guns Yes, Tampons NO! Welcome to Texas, Y'all!

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    As has been observed, our elected reps have the right not to be assaulted while doing their jobs. You don't seem to understand the law, the rules of conduct in a legislature, or civility. You also don't seem to be aware that the state troopers also jars of paint, urine, and feces which were going to be thrown at the senators. It's called "assault," and no, you don't get to throw things.
    Then you actually wait for the assault or prevent it via other means. You do not confiscate an item that actually has a legitimate use. That is thought policing. You cannot know what anyone has planned to use a tampon or other feminine hygiene products for.
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    Re: Guns Yes, Tampons NO! Welcome to Texas, Y'all!

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    They were senate guards, not Republicans. I suppose they'll tell there aren't any Democrats in the Texas Senate.
    They were state troopers, the DPS.

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    Re: Guns Yes, Tampons NO! Welcome to Texas, Y'all!

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Then you actually wait for the assault or prevent it via other means. You do not confiscate an item that actually has a legitimate use. That is thought policing. You cannot know what anyone has planned to use a tampon or other feminine hygiene products for.
    "Officers told CNN they had also confiscated used feminine products, as well as bottles of urine and feces." Feminine hygiene products among items confiscated at Texas Capitol – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

    I don't think that the officers searching bags were thinking about the ordinary use of tampons, particularly after one woman was found to have 75. Once women complained, they stopped confiscating them.

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    Re: Guns Yes, Tampons NO! Welcome to Texas, Y'all!

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    "Officers told CNN they had also confiscated used feminine products, as well as bottles of urine and feces." Feminine hygiene products among items confiscated at Texas Capitol – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

    I don't think that the officers searching bags were thinking about the ordinary use of tampons, particularly after one woman was found to have 75. Once women complained, they stopped confiscating them.
    Some of them apparently were, since it was reported that unused/unopened tampons were being confiscated as well. There would have been no reason to halt confiscation if they weren't also taking tampons that weren't opened/used.

    I have no issue with them confiscating bloody or unsanitary items. I do have an issue with them confiscating items such as unopened/unused feminine products or the like. And if they weren't also taking those, then, like I said, there would have been no point issuing a halt of those from being confiscated.

    The picture in the blog you posted proves they were confiscating unused tampons among other things that should not have been taken (such as the unopened food).
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    Re: Guns Yes, Tampons NO! Welcome to Texas, Y'all!

    It's very easy to Monday-morning quarterback. As I've said, I don't the DPS troopers, who are primarily male, were even thinking about women needing these products for the usual purpose. They were tasked with searching for possible projectiles. And again, when women complained, the DPS reversed the decision. Somehow this continues to be forgotten.

    Also forgotten is what really matters here: That we are a nation of laws and that your First Amendment rights stop at hurling anything at anybody, particularly if your intent is to prevent the business of your elected reps from being conducted.

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