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    Re: Surprise! Huge US Budget Surplus Shatters Record

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I seem to remember reading about such a thing many years ago, something about hostages and a civil war in Nicaragua or somewhere like that, but that was a long, long time ago and has nothing to do with the present time.

    When applying history to the present, legends are what count, not dry old dull facts and reality.
    I have nothing to Contra that.

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    Re: Surprise! Huge US Budget Surplus Shatters Record

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    You started it.

    actually, I agree that we have a lack of leadership, but when the name of the legendary demigod is mentioned, I just have this Pavlovian response that compels me to bring up the actual history of his presidency.
    Tell me how the Iran Contra scandal affected you or the American economy? What does that have to with the economic conditions of today? Actual history shows that Iran Contra wasn't nearly as bad as Reagan haters want to claim

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    Re: Surprise! Huge US Budget Surplus Shatters Record

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    Tell me how the Iran Contra scandal affected you or the American economy? What does that have to with the economic conditions of today? Actual history shows that Iran Contra wasn't nearly as bad as Reagan haters want to claim
    and, I'm sure the bailout of the S and L was totally different from the bailouts of the "too big to fail" entities during the Bush and Obama administrations as well.
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    Re: Surprise! Huge US Budget Surplus Shatters Record

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    and, I'm sure the bailout of the S and L was totally different from the bailouts of the "too big to fail" entities during the Bush and Obama administrations as well.
    Didn't support that either so what is your point? Time for some tough love but the problem is tough love never hurts the bureaucrats.

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    Re: Surprise! Huge US Budget Surplus Shatters Record

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    Didn't support that either so what is your point? Time for some tough love but the problem is tough love never hurts the bureaucrats.
    I'm sure you didn't support the bailouts of the S and L, nor the arms sales to the Iranians. You probably weren't too happy about amnesty for illegals, either, and yet you bring Reagan up as a great example of leadership. That is quite puzzling.

    But, back to the subject of the thread: It appears that the deficit is about half of what it was during the campaign. I can recall both candidates claiming to plan to reduce the deficit over ten years, but neither of them projecting anything like a halving of it this soon.

    It seems pretty unlikely that Obama has done anything to bring about such a reduction, and yet the opposition seems to be intent on claiming that the economy can't possibly be improving with a Democrat still in the White House, while Obama supporters are equally intent on his claiming credit.

    It's almost like beliefs and biases trump facts.

    What's that? Oh, take out "almost" and insert "politics"? Right. Insert politics into anything, and facts really don't matter any more.
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    Re: Surprise! Huge US Budget Surplus Shatters Record

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    How is it then that every bad thing that happens is the fault of the president (according to his opponents), and every good thing that happens is also because of the president (according to his supporters)?
    Politics. That exactly what Im trying to get away from. Reduce the President back to what it was supposed to be, an executor of the policies of the congress, a military leader, a single voice in foreign policy, and a check on the absolute power of congress.

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    Re: Surprise! Huge US Budget Surplus Shatters Record

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    You really have no idea what you are talking about if you believe that the President of the United States doesn't dictate the legislative agenda to the Congress. you seem very nave and gullible. We do have a celebrity President right now who acts like a king ruling by executive order.
    So im dumb?

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    Re: Surprise! Huge US Budget Surplus Shatters Record

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    A real leader would no doubt raise money by selling arms to the Iranians.
    Guess that's better than giving fighter jets to Egypt!
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    Re: Surprise! Huge US Budget Surplus Shatters Record

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I'm sure you didn't support the bailouts of the S and L, nor the arms sales to the Iranians. You probably weren't too happy about amnesty for illegals, either, and yet you bring Reagan up as a great example of leadership. That is quite puzzling.

    But, back to the subject of the thread: It appears that the deficit is about half of what it was during the campaign. I can recall both candidates claiming to plan to reduce the deficit over ten years, but neither of them projecting anything like a halving of it this soon.

    It seems pretty unlikely that Obama has done anything to bring about such a reduction, and yet the opposition seems to be intent on claiming that the economy can't possibly be improving with a Democrat still in the White House, while Obama supporters are equally intent on his claiming credit.

    It's almost like beliefs and biases trump facts.

    What's that? Oh, take out "almost" and insert "politics"? Right. Insert politics into anything, and facts really don't matter any more.
    What do you think putting 21 plus million Americans back to work full time would do for the economy and that deficit? What do you think a pro growth economic policy would do for economic growth which some economists are claiming contracted the last quarter? This is about lack of leadership and lack of a positive economic policy by Obama that is being ignored by supporters.

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    Re: Surprise! Huge US Budget Surplus Shatters Record

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What do you think putting 21 plus million Americans back to work full time would do for the economy and that deficit? What do you think a pro growth economic policy would do for economic growth which some economists are claiming contracted the last quarter? This is about lack of leadership and lack of a positive economic policy by Obama that is being ignored by supporters.
    Oh, I'm sure that that many full time jobs would do wonders for the economy. I'm just not sure how the government could accomplish such a thing.
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