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    Re: Surprise! Huge US Budget Surplus Shatters Record

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Those numbers you see constantly spinning aren't from a live connection to every Federal agency's moment-to-moment spending. That information doesn't exist to draw from. You said it yourself, the last date available was the 11th. The numbers are keyed to a starting point and then the website just mathematically extrapolates them. Based on what?

    Estimates from earlier in the year.
    Sometimes things are almost too much. Noticing a little irony with the quote you have from whoever Neil DeGrasse Tyson is about his trusting belief of aliens without a shed of credible evidence, yet estimates taken from established federal debt patterns are to be view with doubt?

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    Re: Surprise! Huge US Budget Surplus Shatters Record

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    I dont think his job is to get people together. Its to execute the law, and deal with foreign affairs. OUR job is to get people to work together, or get people in there who will.
    Who is "OUR"? Too many people have no concept of leadership and that is the problem today. Obama was hired to fix the problem not to be a figure head. He has failed as his resume showed he would. He lacked any leadership experience and executive experience acting instead like a King, "do as I say" and that isn't the way our govt. works. He is a community agitator and that shows up daily.

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    Re: Surprise! Huge US Budget Surplus Shatters Record

    Quote Originally Posted by windowdressing View Post
    I trust you know that I expected this response ... too predictable, but it's worth the laugh ...
    So was the article you posted.
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    Re: Surprise! Huge US Budget Surplus Shatters Record

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    So was the article you posted.
    Seems that anything Obama tells these people he has done it automatically accepted as an accomplishment when the reality is most of what has been posted here is either hasn't been implemented yet, is a total failure, or was done as a result of work done by the previous administration. Would love to know how anyone can call healthcare reform, the stimulus, saving the unions with taxpayer money, recapitalizing the banks thus rewarding bad behavior, implementing the Status of Forces Agreement, claims of saving the auto industry, and all the other partisan "accomplishments" a success?

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    Re: Surprise! Huge US Budget Surplus Shatters Record

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    Sometimes things are almost too much. Noticing a little irony with the quote you have from whoever Neil DeGrasse Tyson is about his trusting belief of aliens without a shed of credible evidence, yet estimates taken from established federal debt patterns are to be view with doubt?
    First off, that quote is in a much larger context. Neil was saying that the material that makes up life is so abundant in such a vast universe, that it's basically a statistical certainty that some form of life exists out there somewhere. He was saying for us to believe that we're some super special, magical occurrence when we're made of literally the most common stuff in the universe is egocentric.

    And you're now grossly extrapolating what I was saying. I didn't say their numbers were bad, or wrong. They are projections, and projections can be wrong when unexpected things crop up. For example, a large lump sum payment from bank settlements might not have been reflected in those projections, throwing off the numbers for June.

    Do you get it now? It's not a live feed. That's it. That's my criticism.
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    Re: Surprise! Huge US Budget Surplus Shatters Record

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    First off, that quote is in a much larger context. Neil was saying that the material that makes up life is so abundant in such a vast universe, that it's basically a statistical certainty that some form of life exists out there somewhere. He was saying for us to believe that we're some super special, magical occurrence when we're made of literally the most common stuff in the universe is egocentric.

    And you're now grossly extrapolating what I was saying. I didn't say their numbers were bad, or wrong. They are projections, and projections can be wrong when unexpected things crop up. For example, a large lump sum payment from bank settlements might not have been reflected in those projections, throwing off the numbers for June.

    Do you get it now? It's not a live feed. That's it. That's my criticism.
    Fair enough.

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    Re: Surprise! Huge US Budget Surplus Shatters Record

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Who is "OUR"? Too many people have no concept of leadership and that is the problem today. Obama was hired to fix the problem not to be a figure head. He has failed as his resume showed he would. He lacked any leadership experience and executive experience acting instead like a King, "do as I say" and that isn't the way our govt. works. He is a community agitator and that shows up daily.
    Citizens. Congress works for us, its our job to make them do their job. The Presidents job is to approve and execute the laws, not to be a leader. Its an administrative position and we need to return it to that, not continue to treat it as a celebrity.

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    Re: Surprise! Huge US Budget Surplus Shatters Record

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Citizens. Congress works for us, its our job to make them do their job. The Presidents job is to approve and execute the laws, not to be a leader. Its an administrative position and we need to return it to that, not continue to treat it as a celebrity.
    LOL, ok, you really are very naïve, Congress doesn't work for us or Congress would be doing the will of the people which is to develop policies that create jobs, incentives, and promotes the private sector. It is the President's Job to provide the leadership to get things done. If that isn't the case why even elect a President? I do agree that it is treated as a celebrity and that is why Obama is given a pass when it comes to the terrible results we have today.

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    Re: Surprise! Huge US Budget Surplus Shatters Record

    The entire government works for the People. Sadly, it has been ingrained into the minds of the public that this is not the case.

    "When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty."
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    It is sad to see that the American people have lost the backbone and testicular fortitude to uphold the system of government as it has been written in order to prevent the tyranny of this day and age.

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    Re: Surprise! Huge US Budget Surplus Shatters Record

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You see, therein lies the problem, results don't matter to you and the question is why? Do you have any idea what leadership is and the responsibilities of leadership? Do you really think that the list that you posted are POSITIVE accomplishments? Why doesn't unemployed/debt/gdp growth bother you? Do you really have such low expectations in our leaders?
    actually, yes, I have very low expectations of our "leaders," in the WH, Congress, and Sup. Ct. ... and they usually meet my expectations and rarely exceed them ... Bush actually managed to come in under my low`expectations ... not easy to do ... as critical as I am of Obama, I can't help but wonder how he would have done had he not had to deal with an opposition bent on destroying his presidency from the beginning and putting party over country to do it ... whenever I see McConnell, Boehner, Cantor, and the other clowns, I actually get a little sick to my stomach ... in a way, Obama has done remarkably well under the circumstances ...

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