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    Re: Surprise! Huge US Budget Surplus Shatters Record

    Quote Originally Posted by ToastyOats View Post
    You could apply that to probably about every political leader ever.
    That is true to a point until you look at the actual results and still the support Obama has. No reasonable person can look at Obama's results and claim he is doing a good job and deserves to be where he is. There is nothing he has done that has led to the surplus that people here are giving him credit for

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    Re: Surprise! Huge US Budget Surplus Shatters Record

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    You don't know what the difference is between a
    budget surplus/deficit and the national debt.
    You know, its those on the right that know the difference all too well.

    Well enough to know you people are fooling yourself.

    Go ahead, celebrate the "surplus" and Fannie's new "profits".

    Just remember you have to ignore the rising debt and Fannie's 5 TRILLION in crap mortgages or Mortgage Backed Securites backed by Crap mortgages.

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    Re: Surprise! Huge US Budget Surplus Shatters Record

    Quote Originally Posted by windowdressing View Post
    actually for the Obama haters, and there are quite a few I'm afraid on these threads, there are no limits ... my one consolation is that I know it drives them up a wall that he's President ... some of these folks have not had a good night's sleep since November 2008 ... that makes me happy ... haters shouldn't sleep well ...
    What drives people up the wall are the results generated, results matter. Still waiting for the economic policies, foreign policies that Obama has implemented that has led to anything positive? It is easy for people like you to try and make it personal, there is nothing personal here, only results that don't match the rhetoric or the support. What is it about Obama that generates this kind of loyalty where so many buy the rhetoric and ignore the results?

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    Re: Surprise! Huge US Budget Surplus Shatters Record

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    You don't know what the difference is between a budget surplus/deficit and the national debt.
    Of course I do. But notice how you go on the attack without thinking? I did the same type thing that whoever wrote that silly article about a "surplus" did. Except what I did is much, much , much closer to the truth. Everybody all across America can write the same type surplus nonsense every time they get paid if they wanted to. One or two months out of 12 and all of a sudden its a surplus? LOL.

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    Re: Surprise! Huge US Budget Surplus Shatters Record

    What is it about Republicans ( I don't really care what you call yourselves, you are supporting the GOP ) that causes them to think that their obstructive behaviour in Congress and various state legislatures doesn't have more to do with the slow economic recovery?

    President Obama has proposed many policies and actions which in the past were actually put forth by Republicans, despite the fact that many progressives and economists opposed those policies and actions. Yet, the GOP has become little more than a reflexive rock in the middle of the road. A party with little care for the citizens of the nation, a party with a very effective noise machine, a noise machine which sells ideas and actions causing harm to many Americans yet which many of those same Americans being harmed believe it is only those "others" who will be affected.

    Better results could have been generated if teh GOP had not decided on Day One of President's Obama's first term to do nothing which might aid him in carrying out his duties. Basically, the leaders of the GOP and the financiers behind the 'leaders' said - Regaining control is more important that helping the vast majority of Americans.
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    Re: Surprise! Huge US Budget Surplus Shatters Record

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What drives people up the wall are the results generated, results matter. Still waiting for the economic policies, foreign policies that Obama has implemented that has led to anything positive? It is easy for people like you to try and make it personal, there is nothing personal here, only results that don't match the rhetoric or the support. What is it about Obama that generates this kind of loyalty where so many buy the rhetoric and ignore the results?
    this is a good example of what I was talking about ... btw, I'm not at all crazy about Obama, but less crazy about the way cons went after the big-reared guy before he even took his first breath ... you guys shoot yourselves in the foot going after him for everything ... it's like the boy who cried wolf ... after a while, no one listens to you ...

    check this out ... Obama’s Top 50 Accomplishments by Paul Glastris, Ryan Cooper, and Siyu Hu | The Washington Monthly
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    Re: Surprise! Huge US Budget Surplus Shatters Record

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What drives people up the wall are the results generated, results matter. Still waiting for the economic policies, foreign policies that Obama has implemented that has led to anything positive? It is easy for people like you to try and make it personal, there is nothing personal here, only results that don't match the rhetoric or the support. What is it about Obama that generates this kind of loyalty where so many buy the rhetoric and ignore the results?
    this is a good example of what I was talking about ... btw, I'm not at all crazy about Obama, but less crazy about the way cons went after the big-eared guy before he even took his first breath in office ... you guys shoot yourselves in the foot going after him for everything ... it's like the boy who cried wolf ... after a while, no one listens to you ...

    check this out ... Obama’s Top 50 Accomplishments by Paul Glastris, Ryan Cooper, and Siyu Hu | The Washington Monthly
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    Re: Surprise! Huge US Budget Surplus Shatters Record

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    What is it about Republicans ( I don't really care what you call yourselves, you are supporting the GOP ) that causes them to think that their obstructive behaviour in Congress and various state legislatures doesn't have more to do with the slow economic recovery?

    President Obama has proposed many policies and actions which in the past were actually put forth by Republicans, despite the fact that many progressives and economists opposed those policies and actions. Yet, the GOP has become little more than a reflexive rock in the middle of the road. A party with little care for the citizens of the nation, a party with a very effective noise machine, a noise machine which sells ideas and actions causing harm to many Americans yet which many of those same Americans being harmed believe it is only those "others" who will be affected.

    Better results could have been generated if teh GOP had not decided on Day One of President's Obama's first term to do nothing which might aid him in carrying out his duties. Basically, the leaders of the GOP and the financiers behind the 'leaders' said - Regaining control is more important that helping the vast majority of Americans.
    And when Republicans are back in control, Dems will do that same thing. Why exactly do you think Obama and the Senate blocks every conservative idea?

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    Re: Surprise! Huge US Budget Surplus Shatters Record

    Quote Originally Posted by windowdressing View Post
    this is a good example of what I was talking about ... btw, I'm not at all crazy about Obama, but less crazy about the way cons went after the big-eared guy before he even took his first breath in office ... you guys shoot yourselves in the foot going after him for everything ... it's like the boy who cried wolf ... after a while, no one listens to you ...

    check this out ... Obama’s Top 50 Accomplishments by Paul Glastris, Ryan Cooper, and Siyu Hu | The Washington Monthly
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    Calling Obama big eared is racist.

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    Re: Surprise! Huge US Budget Surplus Shatters Record

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    That's because this isn't actually a "real time debt clock."
    Sure there is, click the link at it stares you right in the face. It's just not official from the us government because they don't like the way things like that make them look. With just a little more effort though a person could go to the us treasury web site and get the numbers. It also shows the "surplus" is a line only liberal would spread because it's just not accurate. The treasury report shows the deficit on 2 Jan 2013 at 16,432,705,914,255.48 and on 11 Jul 2013 (last date available) 16,738,230,684,008.83. Ain't no surplus anywhere in all that debt. Of course it's really going to skyrocket when the full effects of Obamacare hit us but the liberals didn't want to talk about that truthfully when the law was being written and they won't talk about it truthfully now.

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