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Surprise! Huge US Budget Surplus Shatters Record

Dittohead not! said:
No, a circle is quite simple, really.

The president is a socialist, and therefore the economy has to be going down the toilet because socialists never are able to improve the economy. Further, we know that the president is a socialist, because the economy isn't improving. Therefore, any evidence that it might be has to be false, because the president is a socialist.

It is all very logical, in a circular sort of way.
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Sums it up rather well. Another guy throwing around terms he doesn't know the definition of. There are so many politico wannabe's that are just simply at a war with the dictionary.
 
U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

Hmm... it's still going up, every second of every day.

poweRob said:
Looks like good news. I can't wait for all the deficit hawks to come in here and also crow about how great this is for our economy. You guys will right? Or is the sky still falling?

Surprise! Huge US Budget Surplus Shatters Record

The U.S. government posted a budget surplus in June, the latest sign of rapidly improving public finances that could reduce the urgency in Congress to strike a deal to raise the nation's limit on borrowing.

Rising tax revenues, public spending cuts and big payments to the Treasury from state-backed mortgage firms helped the government take in $117 billion more last month than it paid out, the U.S. Treasury said on Thursday.

Analysts polled by Reuters had expected a smaller surplus of $39.5 billion.

June's surplus was the largest for that month on record.​
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Misterveritis said:
Actually, I am in my office, a nice, 24' x 28' space with eight large windows, 14' ceilings, eleven seven-foot high oak bookcases, and a half-dozen computers.

I am fine. It is the nation that is ill.
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Anybody else from PCF remember the desk thread? This sounds an awful lot like that guy.
 
poweRob said:
Sums it up rather well. Another guy throwing around terms he doesn't know the definition of. There are so many politico wannabe's that are just simply at a war with the dictionary.
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Please provide us with the economic policies that Obama has put in place that has led to this so called surplus which if not mistaken is for a month. I remember many months that Bush had a surplus as well but didn't generate this kind of excitement. There does seem to be a lot of confusion as to the difference between a budget and actual appropriation bills. The 2009 budget was never passed by the Democrat controlled Congress in 2008 but was signed by Obama in March 2009. Any idea how much he added to that budget?

It really is hard dealing with some here who simply have no concept of how the budget process works and have no problem following Obama over the cliff, just like many others through history have done following false leaders.
 
Conservative said:
Please provide us with the economic policies that Obama has put in place that has led to this so called surplus which if not mistaken is for a month. I remember many months that Bush had a surplus as well but didn't generate this kind of excitement. There does seem to be a lot of confusion as to the difference between a budget and actual appropriation bills. The 2009 budget was never passed by the Democrat controlled Congress in 2008 but was signed by Obama in March 2009. Any idea how much he added to that budget?

It really is hard dealing with some here who simply have no concept of how the budget process works and have no problem following Obama over the cliff, just like many others through history have done following false leaders.
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Why bother to quote someone if you're not going to address the post?

The issue was misuse of words, not budgets and appropriations.
 
windowdressing said:
likening Obama to Hitler ... cute ... but I must say that I take great pleasure in knowing that every day you have to confront the reality that Barack H. Obama is the President of the United States of America and the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States of America and he is your president ... :lamo
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I was comparing the like-mindedness of the many in this nation and their tolerance of our monster with the historical example of Germany in the mid and late 1930s and early 1940s and their monster. Can you really love this country and love the one who says he will fundamentally transform it? I think not. But one can love a tyrant.
 
windowdressing said:
on a Sunday no less! instead of dwelling on what's wrong, think of where we would be if Bush had had another term or if Romney, the vulture capitalist (Gingrich's label, not mine), had won ...

now that you have your bookshelves, put some books in there and read them once in a while ... not the ones by Beck, Palin, or Rand ... the other ones ... a little knowledge will go a long way in your posts ... take care ...
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The last first. I will be happy to compare reading lists with you. Shall we go left to right and top to bottom? Or would you like to move on to the digital library? That one is quite large as well.

You start. And why would you object to any particular book? Do you equally despise all who are for liberty, for limited government, and for the right to be left alone? What do you think of Madison, Jefferson and Washington? Do you despise them as well?

The Bush family is no friend of liberty. Romney was the wrong guy because of Romneycare. But he would have been better than the Marxist. I have admired N. Gingrich in the past. I admire him a little less these days.
 
iliveonramen said:
Somehow I think Republicans worse fear is Obama leaving office with both a surplus/nearly balanced budget and a strong economy....
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Let's see you produce that first, you haven't yet and aren't even close. Good luck.
 
Misterveritis said:
Do we have to limit our disgust with this generation's tyrants?
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On that note, here are a few quotes.

"...Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."
Guess who? No, none of the Founding Fathers. Not Orwell.

"Fascism is capitalism in decay."
- Vladimir Lenin
Is our state not slowly decaying before our eyes?

“If tyranny and oppression come to this land it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.”
- James Madison
Well damn, that sounds familiar

“When one with honeyed words but evil mind
Persuades the mob, great woes befall the state.”
- Euripides, Orestes
Older than dirt, still true.

“The means of defence against foreign danger have been always the instruments of tyranny at home. Among the Romans it was a standing maxim to excite a war, whenever a revolt was apprehended. Throughout all Europe, the armies kept up under the pretext of defending, have enslaved the people.”
- James Madison

On the subject of tyranny, the world is well-experienced in its rise to power, its fall, and its intricacies. We would do well to learn from history, lest we be doomed to repeat it.
 
Morrigi said:
On that note, here are a few quotes.

"...Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."
Guess who? No, none of the Founding Fathers. Not Orwell.

"Fascism is capitalism in decay."
- Vladimir Lenin
Is our state not slowly decaying before our eyes?

“If tyranny and oppression come to this land it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.”
- James Madison
Well damn, that sounds familiar

“When one with honeyed words but evil mind
Persuades the mob, great woes befall the state.”
- Euripides, Orestes
Older than dirt, still true.

“The means of defence against foreign danger have been always the instruments of tyranny at home. Among the Romans it was a standing maxim to excite a war, whenever a revolt was apprehended. Throughout all Europe, the armies kept up under the pretext of defending, have enslaved the people.”
- James Madison

On the subject of tyranny, the world is well-experienced in its rise to power, its fall, and its intricacies. We would do well to learn from history, lest we be doomed to repeat it.
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I always thought this sounded rather apropo:

“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.”​

I'd attribute it but no one seems to be sure of the person who first stated it. I just found out doing this post that Sinclair Lewis gets misattributed this quote.
 
randel said:
is there no limit to the hatred you have for your President? a hitler comparison, really?
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actually for the Obama haters, and there are quite a few I'm afraid on these threads, there are no limits ... my one consolation is that I know it drives them up a wall that he's President ... some of these folks have not had a good night's sleep since November 2008 ... that makes me happy ... haters shouldn't sleep well ...
 
poweRob said:
I always thought this sounded rather apropo:

“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.”​

I'd attribute it but no one seems to be sure of the person who first stated it. I just found out doing this post that Sinclair Lewis gets misattributed this quote.
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“A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have.”
may or may not be from Gerald R. Ford, and has been misattributed to Thomas Jefferson.

By the way, that first quote was by none other than Hermann Goering. That Hermann Goering.

I really hate to say this, but you can't blindly throw out the Nazi card as a futile last resort when our government is now following some of their policies.
 
Misterveritis said:
The last first. I will be happy to compare reading lists with you. Shall we go left to right and top to bottom? Or would you like to move on to the digital library? That one is quite large as well.

You start. And why would you object to any particular book? Do you equally despise all who are for liberty, for limited government, and for the right to be left alone? What do you think of Madison, Jefferson and Washington? Do you despise them as well?

The Bush family is no friend of liberty. Romney was the wrong guy because of Romneycare. But he would have been better than the Marxist. I have admired N. Gingrich in the past. I admire him a little less these days.
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well, comparing reading lists is a new one (and I'm relieved you didn't want to compare something else) ...

Beck, Palin, et al. for liberty? Really? Do you know if Madison owned slaves? I know the other two did, but not sure about Madison ... but you read a lot, so you probably know ...

Obama a Marxist? Really? Do you realize that you can actually say some intelligent things and then write crap like that, and suddenly what preceded it doesn't matter ... you come across as a complete hate-filled idiot when you write crap like that, and I know you can do better ...

BTW, Bush, Romney, and Gingrich could care less whether you like them or not ... you know that, right?
 
Morrigi said:
“A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have.”
may or may not be from Gerald R. Ford, and has been misattributed to Thomas Jefferson.

By the way, that first quote was by none other than Hermann Goering. That Hermann Goering.

I really hate to say this, but you can't blindly throw out the Nazi card as a futile last resort when our government is now following some of their policies.
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lose an election call a guy a Marxist ... lose two elections, call him a Nazi ... :naughty
 
Hardly, I supported back in Obama in 2008. Believe it or not, I was relatively liberal then. I became disillusioned with his policies (or lack thereof) towards the end of his first term, and when he got into his second term I realized what was really going on.
 
Dittohead not! said:
Obama doesn't control federal spending. That would be the Congress.



If we had a Republican in the White House, then the Republicans would be touting any improvement in the economy, ranting about how the mainstream media is ignoring all of the wonderful things that their guy is doing and so on. As it is, since there is a Democrat in the White House, then there can't possibly be any good news.

News flash: the president doesn't control federal spending anyway. Congress controls federal spending.
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Technically Obama has to approve whatever spending Congress passes. So they both control spending. Congress controls the details.
 
windowdressing said:
actually for the Obama haters, and there are quite a few I'm afraid on these threads, there are no limits ... my one consolation is that I know it drives them up a wall that he's President ... some of these folks have not had a good night's sleep since November 2008 ... that makes me happy ... haters shouldn't sleep well ...
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Cough, bush, cough.
 
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