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    Re: State attorney general wont defend gay marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    I wouldn't be so sure. By virtue of the oath he takes the President of the United States has a duty to not defend laws he believes to be unconstitutional. I wouldn't be surprised if governors had the same duty.
    correct not only is the law on her said so is her oath

    " "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support, obey and defend the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of this Commonwealth and that I will discharge the duties of my office with fidelity."

    “I cannot ethically defend the constitutionality of Pennsylvania's (law banning same-sex marriage), where I believe it to be wholly unconstitutional,” Kane told reporters in Philadelphia.
    "I cannot ethically defend the constitutionality of Pennsylvania's version of DOMA, where I believe it to be wholly unconstitutional," Kathleen Kane told reporters at the National Constitution Center in Philadelphia on Thursday
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    Re: State attorney general wont defend gay marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    I wouldn't be so sure. By virtue of the oath he takes the President of the United States has a duty to not defend laws he believes to be unconstitutional. I wouldn't be surprised if governors had the same duty.
    Can you point out exactly what parts of the Constitution that President Obama believes are constitutional ?

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    Re: State attorney general wont defend gay marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    1.)She has refused to uphold the oath of office she took. It's what liberals do.
    1.) 100% false as proven by FACTS

    the law says
    attorney general may allow lawyers for the governor's office or executive-branch agencies to defend a lawsuit if it is more efficient or in the state's best interests.
    the oath says:
    "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support, obey and defend the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of this Commonwealth and that I will discharge the duties of my office with fidelity."
    she says in many ways
    I cannot ethically defend the constitutionality of Pennsylvania's (law banning same-sex marriage), where I believe it to be wholly unconstitutional, Kane told reporters in Philadelphia.
    "I cannot ethically defend the constitutionality of Pennsylvania's version of DOMA, where I believe it to be wholly unconstitutional," Kathleen Kane told reporters at the National Constitution Center in Philadelphia on Thursday
    sorry you lose to facts, no laws and no oaths were broken and your opinion wont change that
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    Re: State attorney general wont defend gay marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) 100% false as proven by FACTS

    the law says

    the oath says:


    she says in many ways




    sorry you lose to facts, no laws and no oaths were broken and your opinion wont change that
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    The oath she took says she must uphold the Constitution of the "Commonwealth" of Pennsylvania.
    Now I haven't read the Pennsylvania Constitution and it's likely it's different from the majority of the other states constitutions. From what I read there are a few of the original 13 colonies constitutions that are based upon "Common Law" while the U.S. Constitution and most of the other states constitutions are based on "Natural Law." Remember after we won our Independence from a monarchy, we tried to distance ourselves from King George and English Common Law. The Law of Nations was the direction we went.

    What AG Kane is likely to do is drop this in the laps of an incompetent lawyer who will represent the state and will make an appearance in court and make a half ass argument to defend the state. That's the way liberals do things.

    I could be wrong but I have history on my side.

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    Re: State attorney general wont defend gay marriage ban

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    I very much respect this woman for standing up for her principles. I believe she should leave her job because it is her job to defend the state's laws. However, great to see her standing up for what she believes is right. Tough call on her part.
    Not such a tough call when the leader of her party, the President of the United States, ignores and doesn't defend the laws of the country on a regular basis - she has a great role model.
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    Re: State attorney general wont defend gay marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post

    1.)The oath she took says she must uphold the Constitution of the "Commonwealth" of Pennsylvania.
    Now I haven't read the Pennsylvania Constitution and it's likely it's different from the majority of the other states constitutions. From what I read there are a few of the original 13 colonies constitutions that are based upon "Common Law" while the U.S. Constitution and most of the other states constitutions are based on "Natural Law." Remember after we won our Independence from a monarchy, we tried to distance ourselves from King George and English Common Law. The Law of Nations was the direction we went.

    What AG Kane is likely to do is drop this in the laps of an incompetent lawyer who will represent the state and will make an appearance in court and make a half ass argument to defend the state. That's the way liberals do things.

    I could be wrong but I have history on my side.
    yes both the US and common wealth and add PA law of her responsibilities and her statements an it all ads up to one thing.

    your statement was 100% false

    she violated no laws or oaths

    the rest of your partisan, opinion based, hyperbolic, meaningless ranting doesnt matter to facts
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    Re: State attorney general wont defend gay marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    yes both the US and common wealth and add PA law of her responsibilities and her statements an it all ads up to one thing.

    your statement was 100% false

    she violated no laws or oaths
    She may not have broken the law yet, but it seems she's incapable of fulfilling her job.

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    State attorney general wont defend gay marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    The oath she took says she must uphold the Constitution of the "Commonwealth" of Pennsylvania.
    Now I haven't read the Pennsylvania Constitution and it's likely it's different from the majority of the other states constitutions. From what I read there are a few of the original 13 colonies constitutions that are based upon "Common Law" while the U.S. Constitution and most of the other states constitutions are based on "Natural Law." Remember after we won our Independence from a monarchy, we tried to distance ourselves from King George and English Common Law. The Law of Nations was the direction we went.

    What AG Kane is likely to do is drop this in the laps of an incompetent lawyer who will represent the state and will make an appearance in court and make a half ass argument to defend the state. That's the way liberals do things.

    I could be wrong but I have history on my side.
    Constitutions and common law have little in common. Constitutions set up systems of governance while common law, at its most fundamental is about precedence.

    Our legal, like many of England's former colonies is very heavily influenced by common law.
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    Re: State attorney general wont defend gay marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    She may not have broken the law yet, but it seems she's incapable of fulfilling her job.
    no laws have been broken
    no oaths have been violated

    and as far as legal requirements for fulling her job this doesn't hinder them, you got nothing but one wrong statement and now this statement that is at best a weak opinion.
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    Re: State attorney general wont defend gay marriage ban

    woman should be removed from her office, for her failure to enforce law.

    as officials of a government you are given duties to uphold, if you refuse to do your duty you can be removed.

    although his woman feels its wrong to enforce such a law, and i can understand that, she can removed it would to be the decision of the people above her.

    her feelings do not keep her immune from losing her job.

    when you take a stance on something, you better be prepared, for what may happen.

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