I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.
Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.
Liberté. Égalité. Fraternité.
but anybody that claims that, has no logical, educated, intelligent, honest or objective foot to stand on for this topic.
thats one of the biggest nonsensical failed strawmen there is on this debate besides bestiality and pedophile comparisons.
Besides, compartmentalized intelligence is nothing new. I frequently see posters on this forum whom I consider to be highly intelligent go full retard in a heartbeat once the topic touches on something personal to them. In one breath they'll be telling you things about psychology, history and economics you never knew and with an insight that would take you years of personal experience to reach 1/5th of, and in the next breath they'll say, "And by the way, the earth is really 4000 years old."
For probably the most breathtaking example of compartmentalized intelligence, see "Eliot Spitzer."
Wrong. They are being forced to engage in commerce against their morality and beliefs. Can a drunk force a bar to serve him alcohol? Especially if he clearly intoxicated? A florist should have the legal and moral right to not support what they believe to be morally wrong.That was a business, not a church. A business is not allowed to discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation. This is already the case, and same-sex marriage does not change this. Irrelevant. Has your church changed its opinion? Performed any ceremonies? Have you changed your beliefs? No? Nothing has been forced upon you because of same-sex marriage.
I compared gays to pedophiles? Wrong again. You're also still dodging the question. Par for the course.Comparing gays to pedophiles? Wow, how do you live with such hate?
Wrong. I said Gay Marriage trivializes and makes marriage pointless. Marriage has always had specific social, biological and economic purposes. Gay Marriage has none of those things. It's sham, selfish and pretend marriage.You just admitted that it's not up to you to decide what the point of someone's marriage is.
Wrong because you just made the case against freedom not 3 sentences above when you claimed a florist who has moral beliefs against homosexuality and gay marriage should be forced to support their institutions and beliefs. I'm the one who claimed Government needs to get out of marriage. You're the one who claims a tyrannical Government should force individual citizens to accept and support the homosexual agenda. You're the one arguing for Big Government.I am an American, therefore I believe that freedom is a morally superior argument. Gay marriage does not cause harm to others, therefore the government has no business restricting it. Which one of us was for "small government" again?
Yes Radical Gay Mafia. The Mob doesn't determine morality. Neither does the State. You also dodged the fact that gays themselves didn't accept the majority will of the people and have used the courts to overturn it.Pedophilia and burning down churches cause provable harm. Therefore the state has interest in restricting it. Also, "radical gay mafia." Wow, man. You really regurgitate the talking points well.
So instead of an argument now you're engaging in silly little ad hominems and implying I'm a homosexual. Infantile and pathetic, but it just shows you're running out emotional arguments.That wasn't the "logic" at all, but keep hittin that straw man! Oh hey, another original phrasing "down everyone's throats." You sure are obsessed with the sexual aspects of this discussion. Here I'm talking about marriage contracts and how the government recognizes them, and you keep bringing up GAY SEX GAY SEX IN OUR THROATS. I wonder what Freud would say about that.
Institutions by their very definition EXCLUDE. A Gay Pride Parade by it's very nature EXCLUDES groups and individuals. An all female gym by it's very natire EXCLUDES an entire gender by it's very nature. Where is this cosmic written rule that there has to be full inclusion and equality in everything? There isn't one. Clubs, institutions and traditions by their very nature fulfill specific needs and have specific purposes. Baptists don't have to hold catholic masses. Baseball doesn't have to include Football. You're emotional argument is a strawman.A separate but equal institution, you mean? Gee, I wonder why people might not like the idea. Marriage is more than just a legal contract. But the government's role is not to decide that for you. It is not their job to require married couples to have children, or to be Christian, or to be straight.
Claiming that Marriage is just a "legal contract" is a strawman. The institution of marriage was never created just so sodomites could get a tax break. It is an institution with specific social, economic and biological purposes.
[quote[Cry some more, take your ball, go home. How do you live with such hate? That's not healthy, man. Gay marriage doesn't affect you in any way. Maybe it's better if you just let go.[/QUOTE]
More ad hominems and useless talking points that have been debunked a billion times. I've asked you specific questions which you refuse to answer multiple times within this thread now which tells me everything I need to know. For any future replies feel free to reference this post and any earlier posts for my response.