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    Re: State attorney general won’t defend gay marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Her job is to uphold the law, not decide which laws she's going to uphold and which ones she isn't. I think she needs to be fired.
    Her oath is to protect the constitution which does not include defending unconstitutional laws in court.

    With the oath she's taken, let's say a law banning any and all firearms was enacted by the state. Should she defend it?
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    Re: State attorney general won’t defend gay marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    State attorney general won't defend gay marriage ban | TribLIVE

    I very much respect this woman for standing up for her principles. I believe she should leave her job because it is her job to defend the state's laws. However, great to see her standing up for what she believes is right. Tough call on her part.
    Indeed. Who gives a flying @(#(#$ what the law is? And why in the world should an Attorney General enforce it, anyway?!?

    Executive nullification is something ya'll are delighting in now. It's going to piss you off in 4 years when the next Republican president directs the IRS to no longer enforce the Corporate Tax.

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    Re: State attorney general won’t defend gay marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Her oath is to protect the constitution which does not include defending unconstitutional laws in court.
    If she feels that way about this, she is free to quit and found an organization dedicated to convincing her populace of that. But we do not give our public servants the right to run roughshod over our will or toss out representative government simply because it pleases them.

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    Re: State attorney general won’t defend gay marriage ban

    What an ass. She refuses to defend the law because she disagrees. What about the voters and people of the state she's essentially refusing to legally protect? What an unjust action. She needs to represent the laws of the state in an unbiased manner, not interject her own morals and political beliefs into what she chooses. If she can't handle that she needs to resign.
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    Re: State attorney general won’t defend gay marriage ban

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    Except that according to the article, unlike the Obama administration, the Attorney General's office in Pennsylvania was created with the duty to uphold the constitutionality of the law. I can still read it as her doing her best to defend it by not giving a half-hearted attempt and allowing its defense to rest on the Governor's lawyers. But it is not as cut and dry as Obama's non-defense of DOMA.
    Was the Constitution amended or something? Where does it grant the president the power to pick and choose which laws to uphold?

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    Re: State attorney general won’t defend gay marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Was the Constitution amended or something? Where does it grant the president the power to pick and choose which laws to uphold?
    Not to uphold, but whether or not to defend the constitutionality in court.
    There should be Instant Runoff Voting

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    Re: State attorney general won’t defend gay marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Her oath is to protect the constitution which does not include defending unconstitutional laws in court.

    With the oath she's taken, let's say a law banning any and all firearms was enacted by the state. Should she defend it?
    See, and I thought it was up to the courts to decide if a law was constitutional or not. I did not know that the attorney general had that kind of power, to decide without any debate or presentation from either side if a law is constitutional.

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    Re: State attorney general won’t defend gay marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    See, and I thought it was up to the courts to decide if a law was constitutional or not. I did not know that the attorney general had that kind of power, to decide without any debate or presentation from either side if a law is constitutional.
    It is up to the courts and the AG still has enforce the law.

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    State attorney general won’t defend gay marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Was the Constitution amended or something? Where does it grant the president the power to pick and choose which laws to uphold?
    Article II Section I

    Presidents have chosen to not enforce laws they felt unconstitutional going back to the earliest days of the republic and court opinions going back to at least the mid 1800s support the idea that the President has not only a right but an obligation to do so under the constitution.
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    State attorney general won’t defend gay marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    See, and I thought it was up to the courts to decide if a law was constitutional or not. I did not know that the attorney general had that kind of power, to decide without any debate or presentation from either side if a law is constitutional.
    Under the laws of her state she does.
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