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    Re: State attorney general wonít defend gay marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    But, is it legal for her to do it?
    I believe it is legal for her to have another "more qualified" lawyer try the case then herself.

    However, I believe she should resign.
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    She shouldn't leave her job at all. She did the right thing, this isn't the 1800's. You think if she refused to enforce a gun ban that conservatives would be howling? No, it's just because they're a bunch of homophobic Christians that want the country run by the Bible.
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    Re: State attorney general wonít defend gay marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    I believe it is legal for her to have another "more qualified" lawyer try the case then herself.

    However, I believe she should resign.
    Is she refusing to do her job based on her inability? Or based on her politics?
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    Re: State attorney general wonít defend gay marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    She shouldn't leave her job at all. She did the right thing, this isn't the 1800's. You think if she refused to enforce a gun ban that conservatives would be howling? No, it's just because they're a bunch of homophobic Christians that want the country run by the Bible.
    Her job is to uphold the law, not decide which laws she's going to uphold and which ones she isn't. I think she needs to be fired.
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    Re: State attorney general wonít defend gay marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Her job is to uphold the law, not decide which laws she's going to uphold and which ones she isn't. I think she needs to be fired.
    Of course you do because I'm guessing you are against gay marriage. Please point out to me where in the Pennsylvania Constitution it states that the Attorney General must file charges against EVERY violation of the law?
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    Re: State attorney general wonít defend gay marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Two men can get married in several states and some other countries. Has your belief changed? Do you suddenly approve of same-sex marriage? Do you love your wife less? (if married. if not, do you figure that's something that would happen?) Has your church, or any other, been forced to accept homosexuality? Forced to perform same-sex ceremonies? (and what do you mean "forced?" gunpoint? by law?) Have they re-written the bible?
    WTF are you talking about? You're spewing nonsensical gibberish.

    Marriage has never meant anything other than man + woman since the beginning of mankind. The collective notion that the definition of marriage has always meant man + woman is not debatable. The institution of marriage was created because of specific biological, social and economic purposes. It wasn't created so 2 sodomites could get a tax break.

    I guess I'm just trying to understand your perspective here. I really don't understand what exactly you think is being "forced" upon you, and how.
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    They want the government to let them sign a legal contract granting certain benefits regarding the person they love, like everyone else. "The existing institution" is not a monolithic idea shared by all. Clearly.
    Not like everyone else. Group Marriage and Polygamists and any other weird sexual perversion doesn't have the same rights. You're also dodging the question. If gays can force institutions to change their meanings and beliefs, then why can't individuals and groups force gay institutions such as pride parades to change theirs? Polygamists should be able to force gays to change their pride parade to include Polygamy pride, or heck how about pedophiles forcing Gay Pride Parades to celebrate "Pedo Pride"?

    You're the one arguing that the government continue making a gender-based distinction regarding a legal contract between private individuals. Based on.. what, exactly? A nebulous "tradition" or "institution" or "definition?" Why should the government base a gender-based classification on the morals of ~50%-and-dropping of the population?
    A "nebulous tradition"? It's a tradition that has always had specific biological, social and economic purposes. Even the Spartans recognized this and they had rampant homosexuality within their culture. The concept of marriage has always been classified by gender. The whole POINT was to bring the genders together. Gay Marriage is a sham. Pointless and pretend play acting.

    The acceptance of gay marriage is not morally superior to the opposition of it. Where do you get your concept of morality from? What moral authority (beyond The Mob or The State) has made this decree? Using that logic if enough people supported and voted for pedophilia would that make it morally right? How about burning down churches? You're forgetting that even in CA gay marriage was voted down and still the radical gay mafia wouldn't accept the will of the people. So this notion that if more than 50% support that it makes it "morally superior" is laughable on it's face. Not even the radical gays accepted that "logic" which is why they are using the liberal courts to ram their agenda down everyone's throats trying to rationalize and normalize sodomy and sexual perversion.

    Marriage is more than a "legal contract". It is an institution with specific biological, social and economic purposes. Gays should have created their own institution of marriage if this issue was about "legal contracts" instead of trivializing the purpose of marriage as an institution.

    Government should get out of marriage since marriage is now pointless

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    Re: State attorney general wonít defend gay marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    Of course you do because I'm guessing you are against gay marriage.
    Actually, I'm not, but I know that goes against your narrative that all Conservatives are rich, white, racist, sexist, homophobes.

    [/quote]Please point out to me where in the Pennsylvania Constitution it states that the Attorney General must file charges against EVERY violation of the law?[/QUOTE]

    really??
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    Re: State attorney general wonít defend gay marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Actually, I'm not, but I know that goes against your narrative that all Conservatives are rich, white, racist, sexist, homophobes.
    Please point out to me where in the Pennsylvania Constitution it states that the Attorney General must file charges against EVERY violation of the law?[/QUOTE]

    really??[/QUOTE]
    actually yes, because if thats the case every attorney general in the nation needs to be fired. No way they try every single "crime" committed
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    Re: State attorney general wonít defend gay marriage ban

    “I cannot ethically defend the constitutionality of Pennsylvania's (law), where I believe it to be wholly unconstitutional,” Kane told reporters in Philadelphia.
    That is her reasoning from the article. And...

    Pennsylvania law stipulates it is the attorney general's duty to defend the constitutionality of state laws but says the attorney general can allow lawyers for the governor's office or executive-branch agencies to defend a lawsuit if it is more efficient or in the state's best interests.
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    Re: State attorney general wonít defend gay marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    She shouldn't leave her job at all. She did the right thing, this isn't the 1800's. You think if she refused to enforce a gun ban that conservatives would be howling? No, it's just because they're a bunch of homophobic Christians that want the country run by the Bible.
    She was hired to do a job. That job is to uphold and defend the laws of PA. She isn't doing that. She should step down.

    She is doing the right thing by not defending the state. At the same time, she is not doing her job by not defending the state. My 2 cents.
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