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    Re: US still on track to sell F-16 fighter jets to Egypt.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Egypt is not a risk, comparing it to Syria is ridiculous
    lol sorry its not a risk? No sir saying that Egypt is not a risk is ridiculous, the country just staged a bloody coup lol
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: US still on track to sell F-16 fighter jets to Egypt.

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    BBC News - Egypt unrest: US to go ahead with F-16 jets delivery


    "The US is going ahead with plans to deliver four F-16 fighter jets to Egypt despite the political unrest in the country, senior American officials say.

    It comes as Washington is continuing to evaluate last week's overthrow of President Mohammed Morsi by the army. "



    I'm really happy the Obama administration and the US military were able to put aside their "concern" at the on going events in Egypt and still manage to sell the much needed F-16's to a country which is falling into chaos. Oh well at the very least the government will have 4 more Jets to bomb their civilians with if this situation goes in the direction of Syria or if we are lucky they will fall into the hands of extremists whilst the country is tearing at the seams.
    The army in Egypt is the most stabilizing factor in that country. They do not bomb their population and civil war like Syria is not in the cards IMHO for Egypt.

    A strong Egypt (with army) is very important for the influence of the US and if that takes selling f-16's to Egypt than so be it.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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    Re: US still on track to sell F-16 fighter jets to Egypt.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    The army in Egypt is the most stabilizing factor in that country. They do not bomb their population and civil war like Syria is not in the cards IMHO for Egypt.

    A strong Egypt (with army) is very important for the influence of the US and if that takes selling f-16's to Egypt than so be it.
    Couple of years ago Syria was one of the most stable countries in the region with a strong army...
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    Re: US still on track to sell F-16 fighter jets to Egypt.

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    Couple of years ago Syria was one of the most stable countries in the region with a strong army...
    Not like Egypt.

    In Syria is the ruler member of a minority religious group (Shia, only 13% of the population are Shia) and the overwhelming majority is Sunni. Also there are a lot of ethnic groups.

    Egypt does not have this issue. They do not have a government that belongs to a minority religious or ethnic group.
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    Re: US still on track to sell F-16 fighter jets to Egypt.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Not like Egypt.

    In Syria is the ruler member of a minority religious group (Shia, only 13% of the population are Shia) and the overwhelming majority is Sunni. Also there are a lot of ethnic groups.

    Egypt does not have this issue. They do not have a government that belongs to a minority religious or ethnic group.
    But they did have a leader who was heavily backed by the Muslim brotherhood and then of course toppled by the Military the same military that took down its own people during the arab spring and continues to kill unarmed civilians in the aftermath of their coup. The country is highly unstable and our track record for arming countries in the region isn't exactly great but it seems like something western powers are more than happy to keep finding out the hard way.
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: US still on track to sell F-16 fighter jets to Egypt.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    That isn't at all why we criticize Russia or China for selling arms to Syria (pointedly it has primarily been Russia not China) we criticize them because we do not think the fascistic Baath regime should be acquiring any more support. The situation in Egypt at present pales in comparison to what has occurred in Syria, and it doesn't make sense to have a complete break with Egypt when there remains the possibility of salvaging the situation.
    Just how does it pale in comparison? Did you forget about the MB being involved with those Syrian Rebels? Did you forget about us backing some Sunni terrorists plus the MB to help give the Sunni another country to run.

    Also we don't need Egypt.....for Anything!

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    Re: US still on track to sell F-16 fighter jets to Egypt.

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    But they did have a leader who was heavily backed by the Muslim brotherhood and then of course toppled by the Military the same military that took down its own people during the arab spring and continues to kill unarmed civilians in the aftermath of their coup. The country is highly unstable and our track record for arming countries in the region isn't exactly great but it seems like something western powers are more than happy to keep finding out the hard way.
    In such a problematic situation, where large groups are possible moving towards a large conflict, a stable army is very important. And again, still not the same as a minority who is dictatorial like Assad is. Where a minority with the support of the army and foreign support is suppressing the large majority of Syrian people.
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    Re: US still on track to sell F-16 fighter jets to Egypt.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    In such a problematic situation, where large groups are possible moving towards a large conflict, a stable army is very important. And again, still not the same as a minority who is dictatorial like Assad is. Where a minority with the support of the army and foreign support is suppressing the large majority of Syrian people.
    your presuming of course that the military doesn't make a play for power themselves.
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: US still on track to sell F-16 fighter jets to Egypt.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Apples and oranges, please
    How so.....we are suppling the Rebels inside Syria with assistance. Helping them evade capture, and trying to cause the Downfall of another country's government. Not even for a better government by the people, for the people and of the People.

    Seems the MB don't belong inside Syria......So why are they there. Other than to stir up trouble and kill Christians and those that don't think like. Including the Alawites and any other Religious groups.

    Notice how the same deal of Killing Coptic Christians, burning their Churches down, all happens in Every Sunni Controlled country. While we stand around and pat them on the back.

    Time for a Change.....time to not get involved in any Sunni adventures. Lets see what ANY Sunni can do without the assistance of the West.

    Not one of those Sunni led countries. Can stand on their own two feet and fight their own battles. Now why do you think that is?

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    Re: US still on track to sell F-16 fighter jets to Egypt.

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    your presuming of course that the military doesn't make a play for power themselves.
    The army has not shown those signs, quite to the contrary. It is not like Myanmar where the junta was in power for decades.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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