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    New York times times: in congress gridlock and harsh consequnces

    a snapshot of how gridlocked our congress has become

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/08/us...2&ref=politics

    Congress returns on Monday with a major overhaul of immigration pending in the House, the farm bill lying in a heap and new fiscal deadlines looming when the government runs out of spending authority on Sept. 30 and reaches its borrowing limit shortly thereafter. The Postal Service, meanwhile, continues to lose millions of dollars every day as a measure to rescue the agency founders in the House.

    There is no guarantee that any of these issues will be dealt with.

    Even in some of the worst years of partisan gridlock, a deadline has meant something to Congress — until 2013. Drop-dead dates have come and gone this year, causing real-world consequences. On Jan. 1, tax rates went up not only for affluent families, but also for virtually all workers when lawmakers looked the other way and let a payroll tax cut expire. On March 1, after leaders from both parties declared that automatic, across-the-board spending cuts would never happen, they happened anyway because of inaction.

    “One hundred percent of Congress opposed it, and we’re doing it,” said Representative Peter Welch, Democrat of Vermont. “That’s a sign of a dysfunctional institution.”

    At this time in 2011, Congress had passed 23 laws on the way toward the lowest total since those numbers began being tracked in 1948. This year, 15 have been passed so far.
    15 laws. 15 laws in 2013 so far compared to the 23 laws passed at this same point in time in 2011.



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    Re: New York times times: in congress gridlock and harsh consequnces

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    a snapshot of how gridlocked our congress has become

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/08/us...2&ref=politics



    15 laws. 15 laws in 2013 so far compared to the 23 laws passed at this same point in time in 2011.



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    The less laws they pass the better.
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    Re: New York times times: in congress gridlock and harsh consequnces

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    The less laws they pass the better.
    i don't think so. people are suffering because of congress's inaction.

    take what happened after the farm bill failed.

    After last month’s unexpected collapse of the farm bill in the House, lawmakers were left with a new deadline, Sept. 30, to reach a deal before a series of farm programs go out of business, dairy prices skyrocket and direct payments to commodity farmers disappear.

    But Mr. Vilsack said the consequences of Congress’s failure to pass a farm bill last year and this year were already real. A disaster-assistance program for livestock producers expired in October 2011. Since then, livestock producers hit by drought and rising feed costs have been liquidating and reducing herds to the point where American cattle stocks are at their lowest level since 1952.

    In addition, dairy production is diminishing in the face of price and policy volatility. And in August, Brazil will get the green light to impose retaliatory tariffs on an array of American goods and services because Congress has not made the United States cotton program compliant with international trade law.

    “The key here is for rural folks to say we’ve had enough of this,” Mr. Vilsack said. “Rural America deserves better than this.”

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    Re: New York times times: in congress gridlock and harsh consequnces

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    WHAT THE IS THIS CONGRESS DOING TO FIX THIS!!!!!!! box
    Why don't you ask your buddy Harry Reid?
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    Re: New York times times: in congress gridlock and harsh consequnces

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    a snapshot of how gridlocked our congress has become

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/08/us...2&ref=politics



    15 laws. 15 laws in 2013 so far compared to the 23 laws passed at this same point in time in 2011.



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    Our congress critters have no problem getting re-elected, so long as that is the case then they have no problem. In policy polls our congress critters have an approval rating only slightly above a roadkill sandwich, yet the vast majority get re-elected. The sheeple are fat, lazy and content to keep their current congressional representative morons in power. You pay what you get for, when you let the tail wag the dog.
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    Re: New York times times: in congress gridlock and harsh consequnces

    Quote Originally Posted by azgreg View Post
    Why don't you ask your buddy Harry Reid?
    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Our congress critters have no problem getting re-elected, so long as that is the case then they have no problem. In policy polls our congress critters have an approval rating only slightly above a roadkill sandwich, yet the vast majority get re-elected. The sheeple are fat, lazy and content to keep their current congressional representative morons in power. You pay what you get for, when you let the tail wag the dog.
    i actually believe in a government that functions properly and to the benefit of the people.

    what congress is doing right now is hardly productive

    After last month’s unexpected collapse of the farm bill in the House, lawmakers were left with a new deadline, Sept. 30, to reach a deal before a series of farm programs go out of business, dairy prices skyrocket and direct payments to commodity farmers disappear.

    But Mr. Vilsack said the consequences of Congress’s failure to pass a farm bill last year and this year were already real. A disaster-assistance program for livestock producers expired in October 2011. Since then, livestock producers hit by drought and rising feed costs have been liquidating and reducing herds to the point where American cattle stocks are at their lowest level since 1952.

    In addition, dairy production is diminishing in the face of price and policy volatility. And in August, Brazil will get the green light to impose retaliatory tariffs on an array of American goods and services because Congress has not made the United States cotton program compliant with international trade law.

    “The key here is for rural folks to say we’ve had enough of this,” Mr. Vilsack said. “Rural America deserves better than this.”

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    Re: New York times times: in congress gridlock and harsh consequnces

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    i actually believe in a government that functions properly and to the benefit of the people.

    what congress is doing right now is hardly productive
    The "farm bill" is 80% SNAP income redistribution and farmers are neither broke nor entitled to gov't income guarantees.

    farmdocdaily: Farm Policy Background: Income of U.S. Farm vs. Nonfarm Population
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    Re: New York times times: in congress gridlock and harsh consequnces

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    The "farm bill" is 80% SNAP income redistribution and farmers are neither broke nor entitled to gov't income guarantees.

    farmdocdaily: Farm Policy Background: Income of U.S. Farm vs. Nonfarm Population
    and what about the livestock producers who are suffering right now?

    what about the dairy producers?

    what about the fact that the brasilians are imposing tariffs on our goods and services because congress could not get our cotton program compliant with international trade law?

    all those things i quoted earlier? those are consequences of having the most incompetent congress in recent history.

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    Re: New York times times: in congress gridlock and harsh consequnces

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    and what about the livestock producers who are suffering right now?

    what about the dairy producers?

    what about the fact that the brasilians are imposing tariffs on our goods and services because congress could not get our cotton program compliant with international trade law?

    all those things i quoted earlier? those are consequences of having the most incompetent congress in recent history.
    Then it is clearly time to make ALL of these congress critters history. Yet, 92% that ran for re-election in 2012 won. Don't blame the few morons in DC, blame the many more morons that sent them there.
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    Re: New York times times: in congress gridlock and harsh consequnces

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Then it is clearly time to make ALL of these congress critters history.
    it will be too late to fix the problems now if we wait until the next election.

    THis gridlock has to stop. we have to convince the congress we have now to fix the problems we have now.

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