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    Re: New York times times: in congress gridlock and harsh consequnces

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Then it is clearly time to make ALL of these congress critters history. Yet, 92% that ran for re-election in 2012 won. Don't blame the few morons in DC, blame the many more morons that sent them there.
    Blame the Gerry-mandering that needs to be undone in the 43 state's with more than one Rep. Oops, that would require a Constitutional change. We can't have that. And so you get to keep your 27--9 remap in Texas, though your state is certainly not even close to that for D vs. R voting.

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    Re: New York times times: in congress gridlock and harsh consequnces

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    it will be too late to fix the problems now if we wait until the next election.

    THis gridlock has to stop. we have to convince the congress we have now to fix the problems we have now.
    Nonsense, we have our wonderful leader Obama in charge of that. The great teleprompter guru, our campaigner in chief, he will just have to learn how to be an executive, or at least how to organize the congressional community.
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    Re: New York times times: in congress gridlock and harsh consequnces

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Nonsense, we have our wonderful leader Obama in charge of that. The great teleprompter guru, our campaigner in chief, he will just have to learn how to be an executive, or at least how to organize the congressional community.
    to effectively govern obama needs to have a congress that is at least capable of functioning in order to pass laws. without congress the executive is powerless to act on its own.

    Besides how on earth are you suposed to govern if one political ideology is demanding the other's unconditional surrender?

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    Re: New York times times: in congress gridlock and harsh consequnces

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Blame the Gerry-mandering that needs to be undone in the 43 state's with more than one Rep. Oops, that would require a Constitutional change. We can't have that. And so you get to keep your 27--9 remap in Texas, though your state is certainly not even close to that for D vs. R voting.
    Federal control of election laws is already in the constitution. Reading is for the mental, I mean fundamental.

    Section 4: Congressional elections[edit]

    Clause 1: Time, place, and manner of holding[edit]The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing [sic] Senators.
    This clause generally commits to the States the authority to determine the "times, places and manner of holding elections," which includes the preliminary stages of the election process (such as a primary election), while reserving to Congress the authority to preempt State regulations with uniform national rules.[45] Congress has exercised this authority to determine a uniform date for federal elections: the Tuesday following the first Monday in November.[46]

    Because Congress has not enacted any on-point regulations, States still retain the authority to regulate the dates on which other aspects of the election process are held (registration, primary elections, etc.) and where elections will be held. As for regulating the "manner" of elections, the Supreme Court has interpreted this to mean "matters like notices, registration, supervision of voting, protection of voters, prevention of fraud and corrupt practices, counting of votes, duties of inspectors and canvassers, and making and publication of election returns."[47] The Supreme Court has held that States may not exercise their power to determine the "manner" of holding elections to impose term limits on their congressional delegation.[28]

    One of the most significant ways that States regulate the "manner" of elections is their power to draw election districts. Although in theory Congress could draw the district map for each State,[48] it has not exercised this level of oversight. Congress has, however, required the States to conform to certain practices when drawing districts. States are currently required to use a single-member district scheme, whereby the State is divided into as many election districts for Representatives in the House of Representatives as the size of its representation in that body (that is to say, Representatives cannot be elected at-large from the whole State unless the State has only one Representative in the House, nor can districts elect more than 1 Representative).[49]
    Article One of the United States Constitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Re: New York times times: in congress gridlock and harsh consequnces

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    to effectively govern obama needs to have a congress that is at least capable of functioning in order to pass laws. without congress the executive is powerless to act on its own.

    Besides how on earth are you suposed to govern if one political ideology is demanding the other's unconditional surrender?
    Reagan and Clinton did it. It is not my fault that Obama is in way over his head. Which party rammed through PPACA, aka ObamaCare, and now says that it was really just "guidelines" that the president may alter the "details" of as he sees fit? Don't toss stones in that glass house of yours.
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    Re: New York times times: in congress gridlock and harsh consequnces

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Federal control of election laws is already in the constitution. Reading is for the mental, I mean fundamental.



    Article One of the United States Constitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    But no discussion of my point, Gerry-mandering causing what you complained of, 92% of Reps reelected.

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    Re: New York times times: in congress gridlock and harsh consequnces

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Our congress critters have no problem getting re-elected, so long as that is the case then they have no problem. In policy polls our congress critters have an approval rating only slightly above a roadkill sandwich, yet the vast majority get re-elected. The sheeple are fat, lazy and content to keep their current congressional representative morons in power. You pay what you get for, when you let the tail wag the dog.
    So you are voting for the Democrats in your State elections right? Otherwise you would be the pot calling the kettle black.

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    Re: New York times times: in congress gridlock and harsh consequnces

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    So you are voting for the Democrats in your State elections right? Otherwise you would be the pot calling the kettle black.
    Texas has a new Senator, Ted Cruz, as of 2012, and 9 new House members - how about your state?
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    Re: New York times times: in congress gridlock and harsh consequnces

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    a snapshot of how gridlocked our congress has become

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/08/us...2&ref=politics



    15 laws. 15 laws in 2013 so far compared to the 23 laws passed at this same point in time in 2011.



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    Are you seriously asking what the dysfunctional institution is going to do to fix itself? How does that make any sense?
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    Re: New York times times: in congress gridlock and harsh consequnces

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    a snapshot of how gridlocked our congress has become

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/08/us...2&ref=politics



    15 laws. 15 laws in 2013 so far compared to the 23 laws passed at this same point in time in 2011.



    WHAT THE IS THIS CONGRESS DOING TO FIX THIS!!!!!!! box
    So passing legislation is a sign of progress? What if it's bad legislation?

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