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Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

AlabamaPaul said:
No, I wouldn't support any of those other than possibly the last one...
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No surprise, since your Dem-dislike borders on legendary. But, the guy/gal you jumped in to rescue falsely accused me of being a partisan Dem lemming. So I gave some examples of where I depart from Dems and agree more with Reps, and queried if any Dem stuff appealed to him/her, to which I got a bio and nothing Dem-ish he/she agreed with.

But then, folks (we all) tend to think others think like them (us). So when someone accuses me of being this or that, I tend to think it's a window into them, which I then illustrate.

See how it works?
 
AlabamaPaul said:
Oh, and it was disagreement among the Dems that blocked the temporary extension as noted in the article...
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Its failure was due to the filibuster. Dems did not filibuster it; Reps did.
 
Sisyphus said:
No surprise, since your Dem-dislike borders on legendary. But, the guy/gal you jumped in to rescue falsely accused me of being a partisan Dem lemming. So I gave some examples of where I depart from Dems and agree more with Reps, and queried if any Dem stuff appealed to him/her, to which I got a bio and nothing Dem-ish he/she agreed with.

But then, folks (we all) tend to think others think like them (us). So when someone accuses me of being this or that, I tend to think it's a window into them, which I then illustrate.

See how it works?
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I don't dislike Dems at all. It's their policies, such as the ones you posted, that I oppose a bit...
 
Sisyphus said:
Okay, what are the police density stats on urban, v suburban v rural, compared to the populations they "serve?"
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Why would you need them? You just said yourself that cops are all over the place down town and nearly absent in the burbs. Are you back-peddling?
 
AlabamaPaul said:
I don't dislike Dems at all. It's their policies, such as the ones you posted, that I oppose a bit...
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Sorry; I was not clear. You're about as Rightie as they come, and oppose anything from the Dem side on partisanship alone. So you needed not clarify that you oppose everything from the Dem side. I already know you to be a Right Wing Lemming.
 
mac said:
What's not common knowledge (apparently) are the causes of these things.

Blacks are disproportionately poor, to be sure, and keeping them that way benefits the Democrats. :shrug:
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NOW :rock we're getting somewhere ... yes, the causes we can argue about (actually, you and I probably can't, others can), but the data are pretty clear, which is what you questioned ...
 
Sisyphus said:
Sorry; I was not clear. You're about as Rightie as they come, and oppose anything from the Dem side on partisanship alone. So you needed not clarify that you oppose everything from the Dem side. I already know you to be a Right Wing Lemming.
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Why is it that you feel the need to attack another personally rather than just discussing the issues?
 
windowdressing said:
NOW :rock we're getting somewhere ... yes, the causes we can argue about (actually, you and I probably can't, others can), but the data are pretty clear, which is what you questioned ...
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Getting a bit wild with your "smiles" I see. Good afternoon bj...
 
AlabamaPaul said:
Why is it that you feel the need to attack another personally rather than just discussing the issues?
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Because I'm a dick, double-barreled dick. So prove me wrong. Name one thing Obama, Reid or Pelosi has done that's good.
 
Sisyphus said:
Because I'm a dick, double-barreled dick. So prove me wrong. Name one thing Obama, Reid or Pelosi has done that's good.
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There has not been a budget passed since FY10...
 
Sisyphus said:
Do you credit them all or merely one or two of them? And that's a good thing, you think?
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It's actually the best thing that could have happened given the circumstances and political division in DC. It has allowed what little economic growth there has been to naturally reduce the deficit...
 
AlabamaPaul said:
It's actually the best thing that could have happened given the circumstances and political division in DC. It has allowed what little economic growth there has been to naturally reduce the deficit...
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And thus new appropriations in a new budget, which Obama never had a chance to sign, passed the House that Pelosi is part of, but not the Senate that Reid is majority leader of, is somehow a good Obama, Reid Pelosi accomplishment? Not following.

Also, it merely extends the Obama/Pelosi budget, since what it appropriates keeps on keeping on, until changed in a new budget appropriation.

So if I'm reading you, Obama and Pelosi set the table for natural reduction in the deficit. Indeed that's a glowing review of them. I stand corrected. You're not a Righty Lemming. You're a Pelosi-Obamanista, and give them way more credit than I ever would.
 
Sisyphus said:
And thus new appropriations in a new budget, which Obama never had a chance to sign, passed the House that Pelosi is part of, but not the Senate that Reid is majority leader of, is somehow a good Obama, Reid Pelosi accomplishment? Not following.

Also, it merely extends the Obama/Pelosi budget, since what it appropriates keeps on keeping on, until changed in a new budget appropriation.

So if I'm reading you, Obama and Pelosi set the table for natural reduction in the deficit. Indeed that's a glowing review of them. I stand corrected. You're not a Righty Lemming. You're a Pelosi-Obamanista, and give them way more credit than I ever would.
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Obama signed the FY10 budget I believe. The FY11 budget appropriations/resolutions were not even taken up due to the 2010 elections. Then, once the results of that election were in gridlock has ensued ever since with the House passing its resolution, and Harry not even bringing a Senate version to the floor...

With the baseline budgeting process used in DC, it's extremely difficult to decrease a projected rise in spending much less actually decrease anything, so yes, maintaining a status quo so to speak is the best that could have been expected...
 
AlabamaPaul said:
Getting a bit wild with your "smiles" I see. Good afternoon bj...
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good afternoon Paul ... I was excited because the poster was questioning whether blacks were disproportionately poorer than whites, when the data are very clear on that ... but then he switched his argument to the causes for this disparity, which was a different thing entirely and something reasonable people can talk about (just not me with him since he had been trying my patience for some time and I couldn't trust myself to be nice ... and you know that being nice is almost like a religion for me) ...
 
AlabamaPaul said:
Obama signed the FY10 budget I believe. The FY11 budget appropriations/resolutions were not even taken up due to the 2010 elections. Then, once the results of that election were in gridlock has ensued ever since with the House passing its resolution, and Harry not even bringing a Senate version to the floor...

With the baseline budgeting process used in DC, it's extremely difficult to decrease a projected rise in spending much less actually decrease anything, so yes, maintaining a status quo so to speak is the best that could have been expected...
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Indeed. Speaker Pelosi put together something they apparently could agree on. And that's the appropriation that's now in force, creating what you say is "natural deficit reduction." Seems you really, really like them, even more than I do.

Go figure.
 
windowdressing said:
good afternoon Paul ... I was excited because the poster was questioning whether blacks were disproportionately poorer than whites, when the data are very clear on that ... but then he switched his argument to the causes for this disparity, which was a different thing entirely and something reasonable people can talk about (just not me with him since he had been trying my patience for some time and I couldn't trust myself to be nice ... and you know that being nice is almost like a religion for me) ...
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I'm more interested in your thoughts on the thread's subject and whether or not you think the DC council acted in the best interest of its citizens in basically telling Walmart that it and its jobs were not wanted...
 
Sisyphus said:
Indeed. Speaker Pelosi put together something they apparently could agree on. And that's the appropriation that's now in force, creating what you say is "natural deficit reduction." Seems you really, really like them, even more than I do.

Go figure.
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No, you missed the point. The continuing resolutions that followed allow for little of the normal baseline increases that would otherwise happen. It's like when a family decides to hold the line on expenses while receiving a 1-3% raise in the following years where they can reduce the deficit of their expenditures...
 
AlabamaPaul said:
No, you missed the point. The continuing resolutions that followed allow for little of the normal baseline increases that would otherwise happen. It's like when a family decides to hold the line on expenses while receiving a 1-3% raise in the following years where they can reduce the deficit of their expenditures...
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I'm striving to avoid not seeing the forest because the trees are in the way. But whatever was budgeted by Obama/Pelosi still stands. And you seem to like what they've allocated for various government functions. And it does not hold the line on expenses. Much scales with need. Food aid is X. How many qualify is what drives actual cost. So expenses rise organically with population, for a range of non-defense discretionary items, like student loans, education grants, etc, etc.

So if I'm following you, Reid blocking changes Boehner/TeaReps want is a good thing. I am in awe.
 
AlabamaPaul said:
I'm more interested in your thoughts on the thread's subject and whether or not you think the DC council acted in the best interest of its citizens in basically telling Walmart that it and its jobs were not wanted...
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I didn't even know that was the thread ... in the first place, if Wal-Mart paid their workers over $10 an hour, they would reduce their very high turnover and boost morale and productivity ... if in fact, the $12.50 is a realistic living wage for D.C., then I applaud the council, who, if other councils joined them, are serving workers' interest in the long run ... someone has to take the lead ... it'll be interesting to see what Wal-Mart does ... they weren't telling Wal-Mart they didn't want their jobs, rather Wal-Mart was trying to hold the city hostage by threatening to pull out ... think of it as giving in to terrorists (economic terrorists in this case) demands ... it's not a good idea ... I suggest they stay, pay their workers a living wage, boost morale, boost productivity, lower turnover, and just ask Wal-Mart's CEO to take a little less ... instead of making 1,034 times more than the median Wal-Mart worker, how about he makes 597 times, as Target's CEO makes, who has the second highest pay ratio ... I read somewhere that roughly half of Wal-Mart's worker live under the poverty line ... anyway, here are even better ratios - Amazon.com 18:1
Sunoco 15:1
Microsoft 12:1
 
windowdressing said:
NOW :rock we're getting somewhere ... yes, the causes we can argue about (actually, you and I probably can't, others can), but the data are pretty clear, which is what you questioned ...
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Not really, what I questioned was why, but perhaps I didn't articulate that. It's clear that Democrat racism is the root of the problems in the black community and a prime contributor to all that you listed.
 
mac said:
Not really, what I questioned was why, but perhaps I didn't articulate that. It's clear that Democrat racism is the root of the problems in the black community and a prime contributor to all that you listed.
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your opinion is noted ... now your task is to convince well-informed people of that ... good luck ...
 
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