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Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

I think it's telling that they've selectively targeted work places of 75k feet or more, lol.


I question how that's legal?



The problem needs to be addressed though. Our economy is based on consumption more than production. Consumption requires money. Our middle class, the key consumers, are all but gone. You can blame unions, but frankly, without unions, those folks wouldn't have been middle class in the first place, right? Exportation, automation. Crap Walmart jobs are gonna be the norm. Retail, customer service, etc. Even Sikorsky just laid off 200 engineers. And they deal in government contracts, for the military. So what's the solution. Frugality on the part of the low wage workers? What happens when they buy was? Everyone suffers economically. The wealthy do not support our economy. So, anyone got any ideas?
 
captainawesome said:
They make less than minimum wage as a waiter and get tips stolen.
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Grants, loans, and scholarships are widely available here in the U.S. Anyone that wants an education can have one. It might not be easy, or free, but it is very much so attainable.
 
KevinKohler said:
I think it's telling that they've selectively targeted work places of 75k feet or more, lol.


I question how that's legal?



The problem needs to be addressed though. Our economy is based on consumption more than production. Consumption requires money. Our middle class, the key consumers, are all but gone. You can blame unions, but frankly, without unions, those folks wouldn't have been middle class in the first place, right? Exportation, automation. Crap Walmart jobs are gonna be the norm. Retail, customer service, etc. Even Sikorsky just laid off 200 engineers. And they deal in government contracts, for the military. So what's the solution. Frugality on the part of the low wage workers? What happens when they buy was? Everyone suffers economically. The wealthy do not support our economy. So, anyone got any ideas?
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The idea is few at the top the rest at the bottom.
 
Papa bull said:
The rule of law shouldn't apply to corporations? If you own a corporation, does that mean the government should be able to seize your records at any time without a warrant or reasonable cause? You may go to prison if they can find something in their random search and seizure that they can prosecute you for. Wouldn't that violate YOUR rights?
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I was under the impression the NSA and to some extent the FBI could do this already.








I kid, I kid.





But not really...
 
KevinKohler said:
I was under the impression the NSA and to some extent the FBI could do this already.








I kid, I kid.





But not really...
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I know, huh? Seems pretty foolish to want to keep chipping away at rights.
 
Papa bull said:
I know, huh? Seems pretty foolish to want to keep chipping away at rights.
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I know. That's why I didn't vote for Romney, or Bush before that.



Or Obama for that matter.
 
It's good to know DC has enough of a glut of available jobs that they can afford to lose the Walmart jobs, not to mention the jobs at other stores that always crop up around Walmart.
 
poweRob said:
Don't know if this has been posted yet but...

D.C. Council approves ‘living wage’ bill over Wal-Mart ultimatum

“The question here is a living wage; it’s not whether Wal-Mart comes or stays,” said council member Vincent B. Orange (D-At Large), a lead backer of the legislation, who added that the city did not need to kowtow to threats. “We’re at a point where we don’t need retailers. Retailers need us.”​
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“We’re at a point where we don’t need retailers. Retailers need us." This is a statement by a government official talking about the private sector. Quite alarming, spoken like a true dictator. Not much else you need to know about Washington and the mindset there.
 
jamesrage said:
**** wages and part time work are still **** wages and part time work no matter how you look at it. It is not a matter a of perspective and attitude.



If you are working for walmart then you are still standing by the mailbox.
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Well then, don't work for Walmart. Or, like others who don't stand around in life wondering what happened, work for two Walmarts until something better can come along.

Life isn't really that difficult for those who can think.
 
trfjr said:
do you know how many jobs 6 Walmart stores would provide? do you know the youth unemployment rate in DC is at 50%? would you rather make 8.50 an hour or 0 an hour? you liberal are like a starving man that was given food and then he complains it was hamburger and not a steak

if i was Walmart i would say the hell with DC and go places where people appreciate the jobs and the low prices
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Low prices, low wage employees, and replaceable jobs - this is what the Founders thought of when they argued in favor of free enterprise.
 
Anthony60 said:
“We’re at a point where we don’t need retailers. Retailers need us." This is a statement by a government official talking about the private sector. Quite alarming, spoken like a true dictator. Not much else you need to know about Washington and the mindset there.
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That is reality. We don't need more retail. There is more than enough. Retail needs us we don't need them.
 
Anthony60 said:
Those damn Founders! Bane of the left.
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Yeah they believed that capital should be able to have humans as slaves.

We don't think that way, but a lot of fringe right wingers still do.
 
captainawesome said:
Those jobs never existed to begin with.
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You know, I think Obama should use that kind of thinking. Hey, who cares that unemployment has been above 7% forever? Those jobs don't exist anyway!
I mean, if anyone in the press for the past 5 years decides to question the president on his complete failure on that front (you know he will not rest until...).
 
Blue_State said:
Would you prefer if I said 1,800 jobs not created?
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if they were manufacturing jobs I might agree with you. being that Walmart is a retailer that doesn't make anything, and seeing how you are preemptively crediting them with jobs that never existed, perhaps you should also peeptively credit theme with all the Jo's lost in local store closures and lost local revenue as the streams of Walmart profit leave the local economy and head back to bentonville, ak?
 
poweRob said:
if they were manufacturing jobs I might agree with you. being that Walmart is a retailer that doesn't make anything, and seeing how you are preemptively crediting them with jobs that never existed, perhaps you should also peeptively credit theme with all the Jo's lost in local store closures and lost local revenue as the streams of Walmart profit leave the local economy and head back to bentonville, ak?
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So you want to say 1800 jobs saved?
 
Blue_State said:
So you want to say 1800 jobs saved?
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nope. I said what I wanted to say thank you. was merely asking you to be more realistic than you were being.
 
1800 jobs huh?

some people care more for ideology than reality, rather obviously.

Here are some basics.

1: Walmart is a fairly successful multi-national company.
(a) success in business means one is answering a demand for goods or services

2: Walmart saw the DC market as having the capacity to support six of their stores. In other words their executives looked at the data and determined that there were lots of potential customers in the DC market.

3: Six Walmart stores would provide (theoretically) 1800 jobs, most of which would be part time positions as Walmart makes larger profits that way.

4: The question then must be asked: Where are the potential customers presently shopping? In most instances, where Walmart has come to town, the small businesses that had previously answered the demands of the local populace are driven out of business.

5: So - if multiple small businesses are shut down when a Walmart store opens in a market region, what happens to those small business owners and employees? Would the economic gain in the local market be positive or negative?

6: If the potential market in the DC area looked so good to Walmart, that it planned to build six superstores but is now pulling out of the urban area because of minimum wage requirements, then why wouldn't another corporation decide to replace the "not to be built" Walmart stores? Afterall, the customers are there, the demand is there - isn't that what capitalists do, Supply goods to those who can pay for them?
 
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