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Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

Thats a ridiculously obsurd request.

Who are you giving the power to, to arbitrate what a "working wage " is ?

The Government ?

And who's then responsible when those mandates cause lay-offs and higher unemployment ?

No. If you've read any of my posts on the subject, I want Business to start developing a little enlightened self-interest. Profit is good, but it is not everything if you destroy the base from whence your profit comes. If you want to sell stuff, make sure the buyers have money to spend on it.
 
give Gary Alexander secretary of public welfare Pennsylvania a call and ask him. he is the one who provided the information but i guess you think he just made it all up.

Why is it my responsibility to validate your source?
 
I'm not sure I can buy into that. Corporations are so diversified that most have their (often shared) fingers in just about every important economic pie there is. They also control enough wealth that they can stifle if not buy-out smaller attempts at competition. There's not really as much competition as people think, at least in my opinion, and this grows less and less as Corporations merge where they can, and form economic alliances where they can't.

Competition drives the economy.

If anything it's the government that is endorsing "corporatism" by picking/choosing "winners and losers."

At any rate presently there is plenty of competition - no business has a monopoly on anything - at least not at the consumer level.
 
She isn't accused of a crime.

She is being sued for a hostile work environment.

Exactly - she's being accused - she's not guilty, hence the word allegedly should be used.
 
Exactly - she's being accused - she's not guilty, hence the word allegedly should be used.

She isn't accused of a crime so she can't be guilty of crime.

This is a civil court and a lawsuit.

Didn't you learn the difference in high school government class?
 
She isn't accused of a crime so she can't be guilty of crime.

This is a civil court and a lawsuit.

Didn't you learn the difference in high school government class?

I didn't mean or use crime in a lawful context.... The word "crime" can be used in a lot of contexts you know.
 
Why is it my responsibility to your source?

the source has been validated it came from the Pennsylvania department of public welfare with their official letter head it is a government chart what more do you want

you know i got the same reaction from liberals when i provided that chart in a different Political Forum they had a hard time believing that they been duped by the democrats all these years of them saying low income mothers live in destitute when the truth is if you add up all the government benefits the live as middle class

Liberals try to discredit it because it was used by a right wing think tank, but just like you i have to point out where the chart came from, and they just like you still don't want to believe it so they just like you stay in denial. I know it is hard to admit you been lied to all these years. i understand
 

It simply made a statement she supports Obama. No quote by Dean at all. Having the first lady on your show doesn't mean she voted for Obama.

No evidence of campaign contributions or other support. Has she ever attended a Obama fund raising dinner? No evidence for that either.

Dubious to make a statement either way.

What is clear is that the right wing want to blame everyone but her for her problems.
 
Wait, I thought she was being unjustly persecuted for being a Conservative. :lamo

There goes that theory down the drain.

Where does it quote Dean? It just makes the statement.

Did she give money?

What is clear is that the right wants to blame everyone but Dean for her problems.
 
It simply made a statement she supports Obama. No quote by Dean at all. Having the first lady on your show doesn't mean she voted for Obama.

No evidence of campaign contributions or other support. Has she ever attended a Obama fund raising dinner? No evidence for that either.

Dubious to make a statement either way.

What is clear is that the right wing want to blame everyone but her for her problems.

Well considering "fact checking" is required to print a story, I suppose I will trust the media on this one.

Here is another source if it matters.

Alleged racist Paula Deen gave lots of help to Barack Obama - Naked DC

They call Deen a "major campaign contributor" to boot.
 
do you know how many jobs 6 Walmart stores would provide? do you know the youth unemployment rate in DC is at 50%? would you rather make 8.50 an hour or 0 an hour? you liberal are like a starving man that was given food and then he complains it was hamburger and not a steak if i was Walmart i would say the hell with DC and go places where people appreciate the jobs and the low prices

I love Rabid conservo-speak... answer your questions rather than ask vague questions... Fact is Walmart is moving away from full time workers, past part-time workers and hiring temp or contract workers as they get ZERO benefits and depending on the method of filing, zero unemployment compensation when they are let go- a process called churning. since you brought up the youth unemployment rate, just how many workers at Walmart are 'youth'?

Now about the hamburger BS... Walmart is like the rich guy handing his workers 3 hamburgers for the week knowing full well the taxpayer- something Walmart has a very sketchy past with- will keep the worker fed, clothed and medically taken care of. In a way Walmart is the wave of our future, corporations de-facto making the government responsible for the worker's well being.

Walmart has already gone to all the places, and left a wake of crashed small businesses for miles around each store here in Oklahoma, DC is the last frontier, I guess like farming marginal land, all the other places are under plow. I can see them having an 'Alexander the Great' moment. How far into the wilderness can you go? How much land area do you have to occupy? When is big, big enough?

The question to ask is will Walmart bring in NEW jobs or displace workers and small business owners for a net loss? Walmart isn't Mercedes, USA. Nor is it Beretta USA- Walmart doesn't build anything, it doesn't provide anything new to the consumer- just more of the same at cheaper prices. People were getting their TVs, T-Shirts, Jeans, and groceries someplace before Walmart showed up. Those places employ people, have owners, pay property taxes. Given what I've seen of Walmart's coming to rural America, I'd say it isn't a win-win for any area.
 
A higher payed Unionized low skilled workforce would simply be offset with higher prices for WallMart Consumers, who would then find better deals with their competitors.

WallMart would respond by laying off thousands of workers, closing stores and eventually going away.

Typical short sighted liberalism.


That's retarded.

How then does their comptetition recognize a union and pay their workers more?
 
Where does it quote Dean? It just makes the statement.

Did she give money?

What is clear is that the right wants to blame everyone but Dean for her problems.

I don't care, all I know is that the same people who were outraged that Deen was being persecuted for being Conservative are now saying she supported Obama! Which is it?
 
the source has been validated it came from the Pennsylvania department of public welfare with their official letter head it is a government chart what more do you want

Then show me the website from PDPW that displays the works cited information. It shouldn't be too difficult being that it is from a government source.

I am not here to debate party politics with anyone.
 
I don't care, all I know is that the same people who were outraged that Deen was being persecuted for being Conservative are now saying she supported Obama! Which is it?

They are just deflecting and distracting.

I don't know who she voted for or if she voted. If she said so somewhere I haven't seen it.

What is clear is that those who are defending her are Obama haters.
 
I love Rabid conservo-speak... answer your questions rather than ask vague questions... Fact is Walmart is moving away from full time workers, past part-time workers and hiring temp or contract workers as they get ZERO benefits and depending on the method of filing, zero unemployment compensation when they are let go- a process called churning. since you brought up the youth unemployment rate, just how many workers at Walmart are 'youth'?

Now about the hamburger BS... Walmart is like the rich guy handing his workers 3 hamburgers for the week knowing full well the taxpayer- something Walmart has a very sketchy past with- will keep the worker fed, clothed and medically taken care of. In a way Walmart is the wave of our future, corporations de-facto making the government responsible for the worker's well being.

Walmart has already gone to all the places, and left a wake of crashed small businesses for miles around each store here in Oklahoma, DC is the last frontier, I guess like farming marginal land, all the other places are under plow. I can see them having an 'Alexander the Great' moment. How far into the wilderness can you go? How much land area do you have to occupy? When is big, big enough?

The question to ask is will Walmart bring in NEW jobs or displace workers and small business owners for a net loss? Walmart isn't Mercedes, USA. Nor is it Beretta USA- Walmart doesn't build anything, it doesn't provide anything new to the consumer- just more of the same at cheaper prices. People were getting their TVs, T-Shirts, Jeans, and groceries someplace before Walmart showed up. Those places employ people, have owners, pay property taxes. Given what I've seen of Walmart's coming to rural America, I'd say it isn't a win-win for any area.
like i posted before there is a 50% youth unemployment rate in DC. why don't we ask them if they want a job at 8.50 an hour they dont need a condescending ideologue Prog from Oklahoma like you to make decisions for them. they have their own voice they don't need you to hold their hand and decide what you think is best for them
 
like i posted before there is a 50% youth unemployment rate in DC. why don't we ask them if they want a job at 8.50 an hour they dont need a condescending ideologue Prog from Oklahoma like you to make decisions for them. they have their own voice they don't need you to hold their hand and decide what you think is best for them

Why not ask a starving child if he would like to eat old raw chicken. Its calories and he is free to say yes or no.
 
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