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Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

or steal or sell drugs or collect welfare.

It's kill or be killed in the conservative world.

What's kill-or-be-killed about getting an education so you can be something more in life than a collector of shopping carts?
 
Conservatives take a dump in a bowl give it to a starving person then call
them ungradeful for not wanting to eat feces. Feces has calories they say. If you don't want to eat feces then starve sucka.

Employment is "feces in a bowl", employment when because of the choices youv'e made your'e only worth minumum wage.

Liberals are developmentally challenged.
 
and you can afford all that with 0 per hour?

liberals are like a starving man that you give some food to then have him complain it was hamburger and not a steak

Your point is just silly. Of course I can't afford it on 0 dollars an hour if I couldn't while earning $8.50 an hour. So, duh go work for crap wages, at least you can eat....is THAT your point? Maybe if I can live on the street while doing it, sure I'll work as long as you feed me. Course, "are there no prisons? No workhouses?" doesn't go over very well Mr. Scrooge.
 
Hmm, $8.50 per hour for a 40 hour week? That’s $340 a week, or $1360 gross a month. I can live with that right?

After all deductions (between ¼ - ⅓ of gross for various taxes, Social Security, etc.) of about $400.00, that leaves me with $960.00.

Lets see, average rent for a 1 bedroom in D.C. is $1617.00 a month.
Average Rent In Washington, Washington Rent Trends and Rental Comps

Definitely can’t afford that, so let’s say I can find a “C-level” apartment for $600.00 available somewhere in surrounding Maryland and Virginia. (Class C properties were built within the last 30 to 40 years. They generally have blue-collar and low- to moderate-income tenants, and the rents are below market.) Apartment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That leaves me with $360.00 for all other expenses. Hmmm. Electricity and gas…$45 - $55 a month depending on time of year (cold weather/hot weather), so we’ll average that to $50.00.

Now I’m at $310.00. but according to this I’d need $348.92 a month if I bought and prepared all my own food and maintained a healthy diet!:shock: Food Prices in Washington, DC, United States

Shoot! Hmmm, maybe I overestimated my tax burden…if I cheat a little on my W-2 I can maybe bring it down to only $300 in deductions…pay it back at the end of the year with savings. ;) Yeah, so I get $100 more, and $61.00 in disposable income.

I still need to get to and from work. The Metro train fares range from $1.70 to $5.75 and bus fares start at $1.60 one way if I get a “SmarTrip card. Gee, that means even if I live close I’d need $3.20 a day round trip for work. At 5 days a week…that’s $64.00! :shock: Metro - Fares - Metrobus (follow link to rail fares also).

I guess I can try walking several hours, put in some gas money for a ride, or buy a bike…hope I don’t need to shave or buy clothes, or anything. :(

EXCEPT…Full-time Wal-Mart employees work 28 -40 hours, 1/3 of all employees are part-time, working under 28 hours, and they are beginning to replace full-timers with “temps” in another effort to eliminate benefit requirements. :doh PBS - STORE WARS: Wal-Mart Business Practices and Exclusive - Wal-Mart's everyday hiring strategy: Add more temps | Reuters

I can only HOPE I get to be one of the “full-timers” getting 40 hours a week.

thats 16,320 per year
lets look at a chart

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with benefits provided by the government you can receive with your pay as a single mother 55,000 per year

and you call your self a libertarian and you want government to dictate pay if your a libertarian Anna Nicole Smith married for love
 
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Conservatives take a dump in a bowl give it to a starving person then call
them ungradeful for not wanting to eat feces. Feces has calories they say. If you don't want to eat feces then starve sucka.

That's why people who make $8.50 an hour are on welfare, that's also why many on welfare refuse to work...

In the end it's the individuals fault they're making $8.50 an hour and companies shouldn't be required to pay more in salary because it's not the companies fault there are lazy idiots out there - it's the individuals fault...

If people want to make more they should learn a skill that pays more.

Great post
 
I was going to make a crack about "possible drug dealing on the side were ya???" but in here the joke would fall flat. ;)

There are lots of anecdotal stories of people "managing it." I'm sure the workers sharing 5 or more to a one bedroom apartment are "managing it" too. I think we are talking about a store employing several hundred workers at minimum wage who might in the aggregate NOT be able to manage it. Especially since even "full-timers" at Wal-mart don't always get 40 hours a week. For instance, trying to support a family on it.

People shouldn't be supporting families on minimum wage... That would be irresponsible.

A business is not responsible for supporting families...

If people are unhappy about pay then they can learn a skill that pays more.

College is pretty much free these days - not to mention student grants pretty much cover living expenses to boot.....
 
What's kill-or-be-killed about getting an education so you can be something more in life than a collector of shopping carts?

You talk as though education is a magic solution to this. Have you seen our schools?
 
Get an education. Don't work at WalMart. :shock:

Sorry, mommy and daddy work at wal-mart. I can't even afford community college....oh...no problem...let ME go work at Wal-mart part-time with mommy and daddy. Maybe al together we can afford a place to stay, feed each other, pay our taxes...and get me into college. :)

I'm not arguing that people need a free ride, or they don't need to work hard to make a living. Just povide jobs that ALLOW them to make a living.
 
What's kill-or-be-killed about getting an education so you can be something more in life than a collector of shopping carts?

Let's combine the goals of the right. End public education, minimum wage and government food assistance.

That is kill or be killed near state of nature. That is what the right wing wants.
 
thats 16,320 per year
lets look at a chart

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with benefits provided by the government you can receive with your pay as a single mother 55,000 per year

and you call your self a libertarian and you want government to dictate pay if your a libertarian Anna Nicole Smith married for love

WTF!!!?? A Libertarian-RIGHT suggesting welfare is the answer? :shock: LMFAO.

I don't agree with "welfare." I WANT people to work! Offer a decent wage and I have no arguments with you.
 
Employment is "feces in a bowl", employment when because of the choices youv'e made your'e only worth minumum wage.

Liberals are developmentally challenged.

Conservatives are morally bankrupt.
 
Sorry, mommy and daddy work at wal-mart. I can't even afford community college....oh...no problem...let ME go work at Wal-mart part-time with mommy and daddy. Maybe al together we can afford a place to stay, feed each other, pay our taxes...and get me into college. :)

I'm not arguing that people need a free ride, or they don't need to work hard to make a living. Just povide jobs that ALLOW them to make a living.

Then be willing to train yourself in something more than pushing shopping carts and stocking shelves. Christ, if somebody paid me $50,000 a year, I couldn't be a WalMart greeter. Some career objective that is. Jesus.
 
Let's combine the goals of the right. End public education, minimum wage and government food assistance.

That is kill or be killed near state of nature. That is what the right wing wants.

Do those thoughts make you feel better about your chosen lot in life?
 
Sorry, mommy and daddy work at wal-mart. I can't even afford community college....oh...no problem...let ME go work at Wal-mart part-time with mommy and daddy. Maybe al together we can afford a place to stay, feed each other, pay our taxes...and get me into college. :)

I'm not arguing that people need a free ride, or they don't need to work hard to make a living. Just povide jobs that ALLOW them to make a living.

These jobs aren't intended to be "living wage jobs." These entry level jobs are for teenagers and college students - they're not careers.

There are plenty of jobs out there that pay a "living wage" but those jobs require a skill.

Is learning a skill too much to ask? or are people entitled to be useless idiots?
 
People shouldn't be supporting families on minimum wage... That would be irresponsible.

A business is not responsible for supporting families...

If people are unhappy about pay then they can learn a skill that pays more.

College is pretty much free these days - not to mention student grants pretty much cover living expenses to boot.....

College is pretty much free?

not even close. it is expensive.
 
thats 16,320 per year
lets look at a chart

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with benefits provided by the government you can receive with your pay as a single mother 55,000 per year

How about you provide a chart what the average welfare recipient receives in conjunction with their pay. Only in the most extreme cases would a single mother receive such benefits.

If you disagree, please present the data used to collaborate this chart.
 
Your point is just silly. Of course I can't afford it on 0 dollars an hour if I couldn't while earning $8.50 an hour. So, duh go work for crap wages, at least you can eat....is THAT your point? Maybe if I can live on the street while doing it, sure I'll work as long as you feed me. Course, "are there no prisons? No workhouses?" doesn't go over very well Mr. Scrooge.

thats your choice with Walmart coming to DC either you accept the wage of 8.50 per hour or 0 per hour
 
College is pretty much free?

not even close. it is expensive.

Yeah, if you want to go to a university - community college is free - not to mention students can get grants which cover living expenses while they're attending community college.

Hell, the grants were what attracted me to go to college in the first place - it was extra income.
 
These jobs aren't intended to be "living wage jobs." These entry level jobs are for teenagers and college students - they're not careers.

There are plenty of jobs out there that pay a "living wage" but those jobs require a skill.

Is learning a skill too much to ask? or are people entitled to be useless idiots?

WHERE are you people coming up with all these "fantasy" jobs? There are millions of people out of work. Educated as well as under- and uneducated. Most people work in SERVICE jobs paying minimum wage or under. 59% in fact if we can believe Bureau of Labor statistics for June 2013.

Employers are outsourcing more jobs overseas and building a cheaper skilled labor force there, while hiring more temps and part-time workers in the US. When they do build new factories in the USA it appears they are automating them as much as possible to remove the need for "skilled workers." Sure, tech jobs are growing, but still hadly at a pace to meet the jobless population.

Lets face it. Corporations are all about profit, and now that they have expanded worldwide, they refuse to deal with American "nonsense" about "honest pay for an honest days labor."

So. Where. Are. All. These. "Worthwhile." Non-entry Level. Jobs????
 
How about you provide a chart what the average welfare recipient receives in conjunction with their pay. Only in the most extreme cases would a single mother receive such benefits.

If you disagree, please present the data used to collaborate this chart.

extreme case? the chart shows what you can receive as a single mother no other qualifications required, if they don't take advantage of all the benefits that is provided whose fault is that
 
Yeah, if you want to go to a university - community college is free - not to mention students can get grants which cover living expenses while they're attending community college.

Hell, the grants were what attracted me to go to college in the first place - it was extra income.

Community college isn't free. Not everyone gets grants.
 
WHERE are you people coming up with all these "fantasy" jobs? There are millions of people out of work. Educated as well as under- and uneducated. Most people work in SERVICE jobs paying minimum wage or under. 59% in fact if we can believe Bureau of Labor statistics for June 2013.

Employers are outsourcing more jobs overseas and buidling a cheaper skilled labor force there, while hiring more temps and part-time workers in the US. When they do build new factories in the USA it appears they are automating them as much as possible to remove the need for "skilled workers." Sure, tech jobs are growing, but still hadly at a pace to meet the jobless population.

Lets face it. Corporations are all about profit, and now that they have expanded worldwide, they refuse to deal with American "nonsense" about "honest pay for an honest days labor."

So. Where. Are. All. These. "Worthwhile." Non-entry Level. Jobs????

That's what you get when the government assaults businesses with epic taxes and regulations...

Business are in business to make money and every time our government goes into attack mode with their taxes they may as well be taxing people out of a job -- not to mention dropping salaries....
 
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