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    Re: Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

    That's just comical.
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    Re: Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

    Seems to me that if the Bill is passed, it should be thrown out as being one of those rare and seldom heard about anymore Bills of Attainder

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    Re: Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Sisyphus View Post
    Pure supply-side (Field of Dreams) nonsense. Making a product does not create demand for it, resulting in a customer with money materializing out of thin air.

    The market is what it is, and businesses vie for a share of it; they do not grow it in any way other than paying their workers more. In short, every business depends on one of two things, or often both: what other companies pay their workers; what government buys.

    If businesses could create markets simply by opening a business, they'd flock to virgin wealth-creating nirvanas like Sierra Leone. But they of course do not create wealth, and only expand into markets with customer-prospects who have money to spend that they hope to get a piece of before some other company does.
    It is not the product by itself that creates the demand. It is supplying a range of products to cover a variety of price points. I might not buy one at 100 dollars but will buy two at $75.

    It seems you are only partially educated.

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    Re: Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Sisyphus View Post
    Yes.

    UE payments: put money in people's hands which they spend into the economy, which is a form of redistribution aiding the vital redistributive effect.

    Welfare: ditto

    Santa Clause: way more economically vital than the Pagan come Christian take on it. The retail sector depends on it like nothing else.

    Tooth fairy: could be, if the child spends the money instead of the parent hoarding it; if merely one spending it vice the other, then economically, it's moot. Zero sum gain.
    Have you never read Bastiat?

    LOL.

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    Re: Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Razor View Post
    If you're inferring I'm on the left... your talking-head worship has clouded your judgement. I'm a traditional conservative... not this talking point, new fangled BS that passes for conservatism today. The root of conservative is... CONSERVE... to protect the future with values based in morals learned in the past.

    Your response is typical of everything that's wrong with today's fraudulent conservatism. They go on and on about how this country was founded on christian principles, and that they are the custodians and champions of those principles. They harp on and on about how human life is the most precious of all things. Does that end with birth? Life... is time. This is NOT a commodity. It is the most valuable (though arguably the most wasted) thing each of us has, regardless of status or social standing.. it's sacred in a sense.

    The moral and ethical conservatism that was handed down to me from g.grandfather, g.father and father is that there is a moral sense of pride in paying your employees well, not the least you can get away with under the law... in providing for their retirement, healthcare and families. These ethics produce strong companies and diehard loyal employees.

    There is a deep contradiction between modern conservative rhetoric and it's claimed christian morals and ethics. Treating employees a little more than beasts of burden is anathema to values such as strengthening family, creating upward mobility and being a good citizen of the community.

    One of the tyrannies we sought to escape in the 800 path to the establishment of rights is freedom from serfdom.
    I am not intending to be contentious but it does not appear that you are a traditional conservative in any way that I would recognize it. It seems you are more of a statist.

    Conservatism, as I recognize it, means supporting ethical government (meaning the governed give consent) that is limited in what it is allowed to do by a written, adhered to Constitution.

    Perhaps you should stick to the label you provided, "Other".

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    Re: Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I am not intending to be contentious but it does not appear that you are a traditional conservative in any way that I would recognize it. It seems you are more of a statist.

    Conservatism, as I recognize it, means supporting ethical government (meaning the governed give consent) that is limited in what it is allowed to do by a written, adhered to Constitution.

    Perhaps you should stick to the label you provided, "Other".
    Minimum wage, nor wages in general are not covered in the constitution. This, as far as I can see, is a local issue. Correct? Do I really need to spell the rest out?

    I am willing to bet that the 50% of the population being pushed out of the middle class, or already out of it, or never were in it, would give their consent quite readily. You may not...

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    Re: Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Razor View Post
    Minimum wage, nor wages in general are not covered in the constitution. This, as far as I can see, is a local issue. Correct? Do I really need to spell the rest out?
    Yes. Please do. Governments have no business interference in our economic affairs, one way or another. It is not part of governments role or charter. That gets me back to conservatism.

    I am willing to bet that the 50% of the population being pushed out of the middle class, or already out of it, or never were in it, would give their consent quite readily. You may not...
    Government is the cause of that. We are over taxed, over regulated and ruled without our consent. Your beliefs are not classical conservatism. They are thinly veiled progressivism.

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    Re: Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Who, in this federal government, is an ultra-conservative? Conservatives believe that governments must be constrained by written constitutions. Is an ultra-conservative someone who really, really believes it?
    I was referring to corporate decision-makers who put the bottom-line profits of their companies ahead of what's good for the country. There's not many 'Made in the USA' labels on WalMart shelves.

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    Re: Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

    Earlier I wrote, "Who, in this federal government, is an ultra-conservative? Conservatives believe that governments must be constrained by written constitutions. Is an ultra-conservative someone who really, really believes it?"

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    I was referring to corporate decision-makers who put the bottom-line profits of their companies ahead of what's good for the country. There's not many 'Made in the USA' labels on WalMart shelves.
    So you did not answer my question.

    That is okay.

    Businesses have an obligation to their owners and shareholders. Governments have an obligation to perform strictly in accordance with written constitutions (or charters). If government had not regulated so many businesses right out of the country we would still be making things here.

    It is time for us to stand our ground against the non-stop encroachment of government into every facet of our lives. It is time to begin the fight to return this nation to the rule of law under a followed Constitution.

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    Re: Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    It is not the product by itself that creates the demand. It is supplying a range of products to cover a variety of price points. I might not buy one at 100 dollars but will buy two at $75.

    It seems you are only partially educated.
    Whether you purchase one, two or twelve of something for $75,demand ($75) increases exactly the same.

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