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    Re: Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

    Why should any community pay to subsidize Walmart's underpaid employees? Currently it is happening in many places with Walmart employees getting food stamps and other subsidies.

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    Re: Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by wbcoleman View Post
    Why SHOULD stores with higher costs and higher prices stay in business???
    A big box has multiple advantages over small business, it is able to gain tax advantages, it has the ability to have large infrastructure supplied at cost to the community. If the object is to gain maximum employment with tiny, marginal increases in prices, having many small businesses is the better way for retail planning for a community.
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    Re: Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by wbcoleman View Post
    The issue isn't whether or not minimum wage laws are legal, they are, but the issue is whether or not they make economic sense.
    Well, they will never make sense to a Randitarian....however for the rest of us with over 77 years of experience on the issue, it make perfect sense.
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    Re: Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Why should any community pay to subsidize Walmart's underpaid employees? Currently it is happening in many places with Walmart employees getting food stamps and other subsidies.
    Agreed. It is time to strip away the massive welfare state.

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    Re: Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    A big box has multiple advantages over small business, it is able to gain tax advantages, it has the ability to have large infrastructure supplied at cost to the community. If the object is to gain maximum employment with tiny, marginal increases in prices, having many small businesses is the better way for retail planning for a community.
    Minimum wage earners often shop at down scale department stores, Walmart being a good example.

    Of course every shopping center could be upscale but where would the low income people shop? Riddle me this.

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    Re: Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    ....but, as pointed out, and which you continue to avoid, there is a net job loss.


    The point still remains, when you are JOBLESS, the prices would have to get to zero for them to benefit you when your job was eliminated by a Big Box.

    And please, don't even get me started on the advantages Big Boxes gain in taxes breaks and free infrastructure small retailers can only dream about.
    Wal-Mart bears only miniscule responsibility for job losses, when set in the context of the entire economy, and nothing you have posted says otherwise. And the benefits created by Wal-Mart are spread across all downscale consumers. The country and society benefit, as they always do from increased efficiency and productivity.
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    Re: Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Bribery.
    When you present statistical evidence that felonies are more common among Wal-Mart managers than among other retailers' officers then you can proceed with that argument.
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    Re: Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Using government subsidies.
    How is that unethical? Company officers would be derelict in their fiduciary duty if they did not take advantage of available benefits.
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    Re: Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    This makes no sense.
    makes perfect sense. Can't tax or sell something to someone with no money.

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    Re: Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    A big box has multiple advantages over small business, it is able to gain tax advantages, it has the ability to have large infrastructure supplied at cost to the community. If the object is to gain maximum employment with tiny, marginal increases in prices, having many small businesses is the better way for retail planning for a community.
    Well, unless you want the employees to have some benefits and health insurance. Small business retail is a losing proposition unless you are in a very niche market. Even then you have to deal with the effect of the increased cost of living because you do not have big box store like Walmart putting downward pressure on the prices of essential goods. The best retail planning for a community is to have concentrated areas of multiple big box stores in a short distance of each other--it creates shopping destinations for out of town visitors to your city. People seldom go from one city to another for a single store. They do it because there is a mall or a big-box complex, or a string of wholesale/factory outlets concentrated in a small geographic area.

    What small businesses outside the retail field do well is create jobs. In that you can attract niche businesses into an area like nanotech firms that do not have a lot of employees, software customization business, research facilities, etc. The government can also make small business more viable by renovating declining areas and incentivize the location of new small businesses into those areas which would allow them to hire more people or pay more wages which the government gets on the backside in sales tax and property tax.

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