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Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

Since when. Do you know that using constant dollars, compensating for inflation, the minimum wage has dropped?

So what. There shouldn't be a minimum wage.

Let the market decide what wages are. If you don't like 'em, negotiate for a higher wage by proving you're worth it, or go somewhere else.
 
Deflection? We're talking Bush and you reply with Obama soundbytes.

I'd say following the neo-con manifesto to the letter is being part of it... yes.

Uhm, no. We were talking about Obama, and you jumped in and made it a conversation about Bush.
 
When you have to pay more per person, companies hire fewer people.

When ObamaKare forces costs upon employers, they reduce their hours or let them go.

Try running a company some day.

Nice try... but try again.

Nope. Pink slips go out when sales tank, due to lack of customers buying stuff.
 
Uhm, no. We were talking about Obama, and you jumped in and made it a conversation about Bush.

Wrong... YOU brought Bush into it for the first time, here.

Seriously? You're actually going to claim he's moderate? Clinton was moderate, Bush was moderate, Obama is not moderate.

If you can show me a post I made prior to that which mentioned Bush in this thread... I'll concede. Otherwise.. man-up and take your whoopin'
 
Wrong... YOU brought Bush into it for the first time, here.

Not wrong, we were talking about a claim that Obama was a moderate. I listed Bush and Clinton as examples of moderates, Obama certainly doesn't fit.

If you can show me a post I made prior to that which mentioned Bush in this thread... I'll concede. Otherwise.. man-up and take your whoopin'

You didn't. You replied to a post not directed at you.
 
Not wrong, we were talking about a claim that Obama was a moderate. I listed Bush and Clinton as examples of moderates, Obama certainly doesn't fit.



You didn't. You replied to a post not directed at you.

ROFLMAO... If I had a dime... poor baby, did I step on your toes? You stated a ridiculous falsehood, I corrected you and you threw a fit.... get over it.
 
ROFLMAO... If I had a dime... poor baby, did I step on your toes? You stated a ridiculous falsehood, I corrected you and you threw a fit.... get over it.

Robust self-esteem for someone who so bungled his discussion of neo-conservatives.:lamo
 
Robust self-esteem for someone who so bungled his discussion of neo-conservatives.:lamo

Your opinion does not make fact. I posted fact. That you don't fact check makes you the bungler.
 
Your opinion does not make fact. I posted fact. That you don't fact check makes you the bungler.

You posted your opinion and called it fact. That's what's known as a delusion. When challenged you deflected. That was to protect the delusion.:lamo
 
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Hello, Detroit? This is DC. F****** Democrats are threatening to drive another nail in the ol' coffin. These a** clowns must be ghouls. Say, how do you like being six feet under, anyways? Hello? Detroit? _____________
 
And vice versa. I addressed your suggestion head on. If you intend to rob me come do it face to face.

You must have been against Paul Ryan's VAT tax he proposed in his RoadMap for America's Future. The reason I bring up Ryan is because he is a conservative and I'm sure you are familiar with his business consumption tax. What exactly did you feel was robbing you from his plan? I'm curious.
 
Nope. Pink slips go out when sales tank, due to lack of customers buying stuff.

Sorry, but companies look to prevent losses... they're in business to make profits and employees are their largest cost. If someone forces you to raise the cost of employees... businesses react to prevent future losses.

That means fewer hires, or putting them on part-time (sound familiar), or giving them the pink slip. It could mean raising prices... passing the cost on the consumer, but as we've seen with ObamaKare, companies choose to reduce the number of full-time workers.

That's the cost of raising wages artificially.

You see, only government gets to continue its idiocies when it fails.

You should really try to run a business.

Here... former presidential candidate McGovern was an economic illiterate too... have a read.

George McGovern
A Politician's Dream Is a Businessman's Nightmare

Wisdom too often never comes, and so one ought not to reject it merely because it comes late.
-- Justice Felix Frankfurter

In 1988, I invested most of the earnings from this lecture circuit acquiring the leasehold on Connecticut's Stratford Inn... The Stratford Inn promised the realization of a longtime dream to own a combination hotel, restaurant and public conference facility -- complete with an experienced manager and staff.

In retrospect, I wish I had known more about the hazards and difficulties of such a business, especially during a recession of the kind that hit New England just as I was acquiring the inn's 43-year leasehold. I also wish that during the years I was in public office, I had had this firsthand experience about the difficulties business people face every day.

We intuitively know that to create job opportunities we need entrepreneurs who will risk their capital against an expected payoff. Too often, however, public policy does not consider whether we are choking off those opportunities.

In services, however, consumers do have a choice when faced with higher prices. You may have to stay in a hotel while on vacation, but you can stay fewer days. You can eat in restaurants fewer times per month, or forgo a number of services from car washes to shoeshines. Every such decision eventually results in job losses for someone. And often these are the people without the skills to help themselves -- the people I've spent a lifetime trying to help.

In short, "one-size-fits-all" rules for business ignore the reality of the marketplace.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203406404578070543545022704.html

A personal note... a lot of what I do is assist companies become more lean in a specific industry. I know it well, and I have been all over the world doing this... but mainly in the EU and North America. In EU countries, due to the cost of labor... similar enterprises have to do with half... that's right... half or quarter the staff when compared to North America. If wages were lower, they would be capable of hiring more people. They cannot because they can't charge more to cover the enormous costs; it would price their services out of the range of the masses, and they would simply go out of business.
 
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You posted your opinion and called it fact. That's what's known as a delusion. When challenged you deflected. That was to protect the delusion.:lamo

His associations and decisions are PUBLIC RECORD. It's not my opinion against yours... its common fact v your opinion. Delusion is calling fact opinion then declaring your opinion the only one that counts... WINNER! You have provided NOTHING to support your position except to demand "proof" from me. I have provided the snowflake at the top of the iceberg.... you, nothing.

How exactly is a president that starts a "preemptive" war, fundamentally changing our two century old philosophy of waging war, a moderate? Please... let's see if your "evidence" reaches the bar I've set. Every single person I've listed has been knee deep in the neocon machine for decades. It's public record. It's fact. They have all signed on to a sweeping, revolutionary (their words) manifesto calling for a PAX americana at all costs.

Please... show me his moderate side... in your opinion.
 
ROFLMAO... If I had a dime... poor baby, did I step on your toes? You stated a ridiculous falsehood, I corrected you and you threw a fit.... get over it.

You didn't step on my toes, but don't come in here being dishonest. And there is no falsehood. Your conclusion that Bush is a Neocon because he has some around him is the same thing as calling Obama a domestic terrorist. :shrug:
 
You didn't step on my toes, but don't come in here being dishonest. And there is no falsehood. Your conclusion that Bush is a Neocon because he has some around him is the same thing as calling Obama a domestic terrorist. :shrug:

Jeezus, you people are tedious. I didn't call him a neocon. Not saying he is a neocon. They wouldn't have that idiot. I said YOU ARE FACTUALLY WRONG. He was FAR RIGHT, not MODERATE. No neocon card holding needed.

Actually it's not, Obama is working for the same people Bush is... get a grip! Obama hasn't spent 40 years working with the same cronies. He and his cronies didn't publish a manifesto which they all signed... THEY ARE FOLLOWING THE NEOCON ONE. To the letter. Yes, his choices for cabinet reflect poor choices and reveal his public theater lean... but unlike you, I'm not interested in theater. I'm interested in what is going on behind the curtain. You apparently don't even know there is a backstage.

And... you still have yet to show ONE IOTA OF EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT YOUR OPINION.

Epic fail mister...
 
Jeezus, you people are tedious. I didn't call him a neocon. Not saying he is a neocon. They wouldn't have that idiot. I said YOU ARE FACTUALLY WRONG. He was FAR RIGHT, not MODERATE. No neocon card holding needed.

Actually it's not, Obama is working for the same people Bush is... get a grip! Obama hasn't spent 40 years working with the same cronies. He and his cronies didn't publish a manifesto which they all signed... THEY ARE FOLLOWING THE NEOCON ONE. To the letter. Yes, his choices for cabinet reflect poor choices and reveal his public theater lean... but unlike you, I'm not interested in theater. I'm interested in what is going on behind the curtain. You apparently don't even know there is a backstage.

And... you still have yet to show ONE IOTA OF EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT YOUR OPINION.

Epic fail mister...

I revisited this thread after an absence and find garbage like this on a thread about Walmart and local DC politics. Do you do this on every thread on which you participate?
 
Jeezus, you people are tedious. I didn't call him a neocon. Not saying he is a neocon. They wouldn't have that idiot. I said YOU ARE FACTUALLY WRONG. He was FAR RIGHT, not MODERATE. No neocon card holding needed.

Actually it's not, Obama is working for the same people Bush is... get a grip! Obama hasn't spent 40 years working with the same cronies. He and his cronies didn't publish a manifesto which they all signed... THEY ARE FOLLOWING THE NEOCON ONE. To the letter. Yes, his choices for cabinet reflect poor choices and reveal his public theater lean... but unlike you, I'm not interested in theater. I'm interested in what is going on behind the curtain. You apparently don't even know there is a backstage.

And... you still have yet to show ONE IOTA OF EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT YOUR OPINION.

Epic fail mister...

And the only thing you've done to back up your claim is proclaim that he's surrounded by neocons.

Come back when you have something relevant to back your claim. :shrug:
 
You must have been against Paul Ryan's VAT tax he proposed in his RoadMap for America's Future. The reason I bring up Ryan is because he is a conservative and I'm sure you are familiar with his business consumption tax. What exactly did you feel was robbing you from his plan? I'm curious.
Yes. A VAT is a hidden tax no matter who proposes it. It is intended to conceal the tax. It is a deception program designed to fleece the greatest number of people.

If you want to steal from me come face to face. I want to see the one who tries to rob me.
 
Yes. A VAT is a hidden tax no matter who proposes it. It is intended to conceal the tax. It is a deception program designed to fleece the greatest number of people.

If you want to steal from me come face to face. I want to see the one who tries to rob me.

Okay, then do you like a progressive tax system or a flat tax. Tell me what kind of system you like.
 
Okay, then do you like a progressive tax system or a flat tax. Tell me what kind of system you like.

I know you didn't ask me, but I'd like to see a three tier progressive capped by amendment. 1%, 5%, 10%.
 
His associations and decisions are PUBLIC RECORD. It's not my opinion against yours... its common fact v your opinion. Delusion is calling fact opinion then declaring your opinion the only one that counts... WINNER! You have provided NOTHING to support your position except to demand "proof" from me. I have provided the snowflake at the top of the iceberg.... you, nothing.

How exactly is a president that starts a "preemptive" war, fundamentally changing our two century old philosophy of waging war, a moderate? Please... let's see if your "evidence" reaches the bar I've set. Every single person I've listed has been knee deep in the neocon machine for decades. It's public record. It's fact. They have all signed on to a sweeping, revolutionary (their words) manifesto calling for a PAX americana at all costs.

Please... show me his moderate side... in your opinion.

I have nowhere called GWB a moderate. That's a topic that does not interest me. I challenged your list of alleged "neocon" members of GWB's administration. You thereby betrayed your ignorance of the meaning of neoconservatism. Some on your list could be called neocons, some not.:peace
 
Okay, then do you like a progressive tax system or a flat tax. Tell me what kind of system you like.
If we must tax the citizens let's apportion the costs to the states and let the state's decide how to collect the tax. While we are at it let's abolish the Senate or return its control to the States.
 
If we must tax the citizens let's apportion the costs to the states and let the state's decide how to collect the tax. While we are at it let's abolish the Senate or return its control to the States.

So, you like a regressive system?
 
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