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Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

Yeah! Who needs those jobs!

Low income jobs that place people below the poverty line, that deflate the unemployment rate to make it seem like things are better then they actually are, yet have the people still end up on food stamps, not paying taxes. Seems jolly swell.
 
This is complete BULL$?!9. Why are you fright-wingers afraid of a National ID card? Why the phony gimmicks under the guise of the 10th/civil war amendment? You know why.

When you cannot reply to the points raised then you simply change the subject? WTF difference do you see between a state ID and a national ID? Will "Obama IDs" not require the same level of supporting documentation as those now issued by the states?

The point made was that a valid, state issued, photo ID is required for many things other than to vote and is the voter ID law in other states. Since requiring these IDs did not raise a fuss when applied to other functions or when Indiana enacted the same voter ID law, why is it suddenly an issue in Texas or North Carolina?
 
Low income jobs that place people below the poverty line, that deflate the unemployment rate to make it seem like things are better then they actually are, yet have the people still end up on food stamps, not paying taxes. Seems jolly swell.

yeah, no jobs would be better.
 
yeah, no jobs would be better.

how about lowering taxes on small business to let them actually employ people to a point where they can contribute.
 
how about lowering taxes on small business to let them actually employ people to a point where they can contribute.

How about the government stop making it so damned expensive to operate a business?
 
Actually, Teddy Roosevelt was an actual Progressive.

And together with W.J. Bryan, the two of them got rid of the ills of the first Gilded age and gave us two of our best amendments, the 17th and 16th.
 
How about the government stop making it so damned expensive to operate a business?

So you only support lowering costs for corporations, not small business. Makes sense. Because the only people that matter are the billionaires, not the small business owner that is trying to get on their feet.
 
When you cannot reply to the points raised then you simply change the subject? WTF difference do you see between a state ID and a national ID? Will "Obama IDs" not require the same level of supporting documentation as those now issued by the states?

The point made was that a valid, state issued, photo ID is required for many things other than to vote and is the voter ID law in other states. Since requiring these IDs did not raise a fuss when applied to other functions or when Indiana enacted the same voter ID law, why is it suddenly an issue in Texas or North Carolina?

Why are you afraid of a National ID? It completely blows up your argument. You don't get to cheat in Purple states that you run for the next 7.5 years. You don't get to cheat in Red state's ready to go Purple. Your people are on record bragging these laws will guarantee victory.
 
So you only support lowering costs for corporations, not small business. Makes sense. Because the only people that matter are the billionaires, not the small business owner that is trying to get on their feet.

He believes that each billionaire should get a billion votes, that only the BOR should be amendments, that SCOTUS CORRUPTUS justices should attend Koch conferences in 2009 to advise on such laws as Citizens United and VRA.
 
The far right "radical Repubs" in Lincoln's cabinet hated him more than the Confederates. They were seething at him for going "too soft" on the South with repatriation. The Progressive Whig in Lincoln came out in 1864 when he ran on the Nationalist party ticket.

Being too soft on the South has nothing to do with racism.
 
Low income jobs that place people below the poverty line, that deflate the unemployment rate to make it seem like things are better then they actually are, yet have the people still end up on food stamps, not paying taxes. Seems jolly swell.

low pay jobs for unskilled work should only be your future until you develop skills worth more pay. In fact, they are essentially training for bigger and better things. No-one hires someone with no skills, education, experience or track record to a middle income (or higher) job.
 
Why are you afraid of a National ID? It completely blows up your argument. You don't get to cheat in Purple states that you run for the next 7.5 years. You don't get to cheat in Red state's ready to go Purple. Your people are on record bragging these laws will guarantee victory.

State IDs (e.g. driver's licenses) now use a national database to ensure that you can have only one valid ID at a time. Why duck the issue and instead suggest yet another massive federal program? Your people are on record as saying that we must pass the bill to see what is in it and saying that federal law is merely a guideline subject to change for political gain.
 
Walmart is an employer of last resort and deserves a pass on this. They hire people that aren't worth $12.50 an hour anywhere and they give them a way to contribute. I'm a strong believer in a minimum wage but to insist on a "living wage" is not a logical strategy.

I have a Masters degree and when I got out of school I worked stocking inventory alongside a man who had a PHD and a man who had a Bachelors in Graphic Design. I don't know where you get your assumptions about Wal Mart employes but they are unfounded. Most Wal Mart employees I knew were part of the new underemployed class because of the loss of middle class jobs. You may not have noticed but there was a huge recession that started in 2009.
 
low pay jobs for unskilled work should only be your future until you develop skills worth more pay. In fact, they are essentially training for bigger and better things. No-one hires someone with no skills, education, experience or track record to a middle income (or higher) job.
I understand that, I really do. But the people that are getting these jobs have education, have experience, have skills (sometimes). These types of jobs are supposed to be stepping stones for bigger things but they are becoming the norm. Since it is becoming the norm to have people with college degrees working low income jobs, how do we expect them to pay off their schooling, how do we expect people in the future to want to get educated when they will end up in the same place with a high school degree minus the debt?
 
I have a Masters degree and when I got out of school I worked stocking inventory alongside a man who had a PHD and a man who had a Bachelors in Graphic Design. I don't know where you get your assumptions about Wal Mart employes but they are unfounded. Most Wal Mart employees I knew were part of the new underemployed class because of the loss of middle class jobs. You may not have noticed but there was a huge recession that started in 2009.

Are you still stocking inventory?
 
I understand that, I really do. But the people that are getting these jobs have education, have experience, have skills (sometimes). These types of jobs are supposed to be stepping stones for bigger things but they are becoming the norm. Since it is becoming the norm to have people with college degrees working low income jobs, how do we expect them to pay off their schooling, how do we expect people in the future to want to get educated when they will end up in the same place with a high school degree minus the debt?

The unemployment rate for degreed persons is no higher than it has ever been. Those with degrees that take these jobs straight out of college, with no previous work experience, rarely make a career of them.
 
The unemployment rate for degreed persons is no higher than it has ever been. Those with degrees that take these jobs straight out of college, with no previous work experience, rarely make a career of them.

Unemployed has stayed the same but underemployed hasn't and this is the problem!
 
Unemployed has stayed the same but underemployed hasn't and this is the problem!

It's no different than it has ever been for educated people. You graduate, get a crap job while earning exp, then get a better job. :shrug:
 
You left out that these jobs raise the Federal deficit due to these workers qualifying for food stamps and other gubmit giveaways, making them the leaders of corporate welfare.
Do you believe the hard core unemployed require less government/taxpayer largess than those who work?
 
Why are you afraid of a National ID? It completely blows up your argument. You don't get to cheat in Purple states that you run for the next 7.5 years. You don't get to cheat in Red state's ready to go Purple. Your people are on record bragging these laws will guarantee victory.
I suppose since the NSA is spying on all Americans now, that local governments are tracking our every move with cameras, what could possibly go wrong with a national identity card? We already have that by the way. The social security account number only needs a picture and a bar code on our wrist and we can enter Utopia. Forward Comrads!
 
I have a Masters degree and when I got out of school I worked stocking inventory alongside a man who had a PHD and a man who had a Bachelors in Graphic Design. I don't know where you get your assumptions about Wal Mart employes but they are unfounded. Most Wal Mart employees I knew were part of the new underemployed class because of the loss of middle class jobs. You may not have noticed but there was a huge recession that started in 2009.

Do you have a degree in something worthwhile? It is not enough to have a degree. It really, really helps to have a skill someone is willing to pay for.

Did you notice that the Marxist has not improved things with his policies? Do you still blame Bush for the failure of Democratic policies and state-run media claims that we were in a recession while the economy was actually doing very well?
 
do me a favor, give me a link of the cases of fraud that made these laws necessary. maybe voter fraud was very rampant and I just haven't seen the data. I can be convinced. But remember the GOP guy in Pennsylvania during the election? Pennsylvania House Majority Leader Mike Turzai (R) said “Pro-Second Amendment? The Castle Doctrine, it’s done. First pro-life legislation - abortion facility regulations - in 22 years, done. Voter ID, which is gonna allow Governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania, done."

And btw, how would you know the right side of anything?

Are you familiar with the concept of wisdom?

Why are you so afraid of legitimate elections?
 
I'm burned out and it really doesn't matter what you and I think ...
It is very hard work to be on the wrong side of nearly every issue. I do understand.

Come to the right side. Life is much better when you do things because they are right to do instead of the wrong things that move the nation into a hard tyranny.
 
how about lowering taxes on small business to let them actually employ people to a point where they can contribute.
How about lowering tax rates on all businesses? In fact lower them so that they are the lowest among the top 20 nations. Then others will send their businesses to the US.

We are no longer a free nation. We are not even in the top few.
 
So, would you say that the Walmart worker with a degree represents the majority of Walmart workers? Or is this unusual? I do know there has been a recession although it seems to have been longer than 2009. You mean it's not over yet? If I go to MacDonalds for lunch today I'll be served by a college graduate?




I have a Masters degree and when I got out of school I worked stocking inventory alongside a man who had a PHD and a man who had a Bachelors in Graphic Design. I don't know where you get your assumptions about Wal Mart employes but they are unfounded. Most Wal Mart employees I knew were part of the new underemployed class because of the loss of middle class jobs. You may not have noticed but there was a huge recession that started in 2009.
 
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