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Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

The poverty rate has been 12-15% since the 60s, and the begining of Welfare in America. No ghetto in America has been changed despite being Democrat strongholds for all that time. Democrats need poor people to stay poor, so they can get votes.

Even if what you said was taken as 100% true, it in no way changes the fact that ignorant individuals are of their own free will opting to make bad choices............................
 
Even if what you said was taken as 100% true, it in no way changes the fact that ignorant individuals are of their own free will opting to make bad choices............................

Like making a career out of being a Walmart Greeter?
 
When companies pay million or billion dollar fines to the U.S. government to settle wrongdoing, where does that money show up on the government books? I believe BP also paid billions in fines to the U.S. government to settle the oil spill in the gulf a few years ago, but it was never clear to whom the money was sent, other than the government. Does it go to the Treasury?

Good evening, Jack. :2wave:

I'm sorry but I don't have any idea about the answer to your question.

Good evening, Polgara.:2wave:
 
No that would be the US government under the control of the socialists in both parties.

Ah, yes, it's the fault of the socialists that the US and other western nations have been blindsided by cheap, inferior products from Asia.
Take a look around you. Your economy, your whole society, is being undercut and it's ultra-conservatives in powerful positions who are letting- no, making, it happen.
 
Corporations consist of human beings, right?

Human beings with an extremely slim chance of being prosecuted or sued for the crimes they commit on behalf of the corporation. Making people unaccountable virtually guarantees they will behave badly.
 
Au contraire. Scrupulous adherence to the rules is ethical.

Adhering to rules to benefit one group by harming outsiders is not ethical.
 
A full-time worker should be paid enough to cover the cost of basic food, shelter, transportation and clothing. When they are not paid enough, tax payers end up subsidizing the employer by providing for the employee's basic needs, which should be the employer's responsibility.
 
A full-time worker should be paid enough to cover the cost of basic food, shelter, transportation and clothing. When they are not paid enough, tax payers end up subsidizing the employer by providing for the employee's basic needs, which should be the employer's responsibility.

So you are against the idea that workers should be paid what they are worth?
 
So you are against the idea that workers should be paid what they are worth?

My opinion is that any full-time worker worth paying, should be paid enough to live a decent life.
 
A full-time worker should be paid enough to cover the cost of basic food, shelter, transportation and clothing. When they are not paid enough, tax payers end up subsidizing the employer by providing for the employee's basic needs, which should be the employer's responsibility.

You forgot Health Insurance and retirement savings...
 
My opinion is that any full-time worker worth paying, should be paid enough to live a decent life.

I guess when you get quotes to have work done on your house (or anything) or even just go shopping (maybe at WalMart), you tell them it's not enough and you will be paying a higher amount. Is that true?
 
I guess when you get quotes to have work done on your house (or anything) or even just go shopping (maybe at WalMart), you tell them it's not enough and you will be paying a higher amount. Is that true?

Those people/businesses set their prices, you agree.. or go somewhere else...

So... following your skewed logic, each laborer should set their wage? or turn down an elected representatives offer to assist in setting that wage?

If Walmart doesn't like it, let them go somewhere else.
 
I guess when you get quotes to have work done on your house (or anything) or even just go shopping (maybe at WalMart), you tell them it's not enough and you will be paying a higher amount. Is that true?

Sure, if there was just a cost-side calculation and we did, as you're doing, ignore the demand side:

1. What additional percentage rise in per-store sales are needed if Walmart were to pay all its employees $12/hr or more? (Less than 15%)

2. What percentage of our workforce would have more to spend, if $12 / hr was the minimum? (Nearly Half)

3. Would demand therefore eclipse the higher payroll cost? (Yes; as it has every time the prevailing wage or minimum wage increases by a significant margin ... in excess of inflation, raising unit demand.)
 
I guess when you get quotes to have work done on your house (or anything) or even just go shopping (maybe at WalMart), you tell them it's not enough and you will be paying a higher amount. Is that true?

I never received a quote for work on the house that was close to minimum wage. Maybe I could get one from an immigrant day worker, but I wouldn't pay that little. I don't shop at Walmart and avoid buying goods made in China.
 
Ah, yes, it's the fault of the socialists that the US and other western nations have been blindsided by cheap, inferior products from Asia.
Take a look around you. Your economy, your whole society, is being undercut and it's ultra-conservatives in powerful positions who are letting- no, making, it happen.
Businesses are being driven out of the United States by the socialists in both parties. We have about 500 independent agencies who combine legislative, executive, and judicial powers in one agency. That alone is cause for rebellion. They were created by the socialists in both parties.

Who, in this federal government, is an ultra-conservative? Conservatives believe that governments must be constrained by written constitutions. Is an ultra-conservative someone who really, really believes it?
 
I never received a quote for work on the house that was close to minimum wage. Maybe I could get one from an immigrant day worker, but I wouldn't pay that little. I don't shop at Walmart and avoid buying goods made in China.

The point is that you, and most of the left, expect WalMart to over pay for labor, while you want to best price on anything you buy.
 
Sure, if there was just a cost-side calculation and we did, as you're doing, ignore the demand side:

1. What additional percentage rise in per-store sales are needed if Walmart were to pay all its employees $12/hr or more? (Less than 15%)

2. What percentage of our workforce would have more to spend, if $12 / hr was the minimum? (Nearly Half)

3. Would demand therefore eclipse the higher payroll cost? (Yes; as it has every time the prevailing wage or minimum wage increases by a significant margin ... in excess of inflation, raising unit demand.)

So, you feel that minimum wage can just be raised artificially by about 20%, and everyone is better off? Just to point out one basic effect, you raise the price of something, and the demand will go down. But, if I am reading this correctly, you feel increasing the cost will also increase the demand. Obviously, that is not true.
 
Those people/businesses set their prices, you agree.. or go somewhere else...

So... following your skewed logic, each laborer should set their wage? or turn down an elected representatives offer to assist in setting that wage?

If Walmart doesn't like it, let them go somewhere else.

Doesn't a "laborer" set their wage, in effect, when they decide to accept a job at a certain rate or not? Of course they do.
I'm not sure what you are getting at with the assistance from some politician. The left always seems to forget the consequences of their actions. That "assistance" will also eliminate jobs for others. Not such great assistance after all.

As you can see at the start of the thread, WalMart has gone elsewhere, as they respond to foolish political decisions that influence the market.
 
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