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    Re: Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    These jobs aren't intended to be "living wage jobs." These entry level jobs are for teenagers and college students - they're not careers.

    There are plenty of jobs out there that pay a "living wage" but those jobs require a skill.

    Is learning a skill too much to ask? or are people entitled to be useless idiots?
    WHERE are you people coming up with all these "fantasy" jobs? There are millions of people out of work. Educated as well as under- and uneducated. Most people work in SERVICE jobs paying minimum wage or under. 59% in fact if we can believe Bureau of Labor statistics for June 2013.

    Employers are outsourcing more jobs overseas and building a cheaper skilled labor force there, while hiring more temps and part-time workers in the US. When they do build new factories in the USA it appears they are automating them as much as possible to remove the need for "skilled workers." Sure, tech jobs are growing, but still hadly at a pace to meet the jobless population.

    Lets face it. Corporations are all about profit, and now that they have expanded worldwide, they refuse to deal with American "nonsense" about "honest pay for an honest days labor."

    So. Where. Are. All. These. "Worthwhile." Non-entry Level. Jobs????
    If I stop responding it doesn't mean I've conceded the point or agree with you. It only means I've made my point and I don't mind you having the last word. Please wait a few minutes before "quoting" me. I often correct errors for a minute or two after I post before the final product is ready.

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    Re: Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Progressives refuse to take responsibility (or lack thereof) for their actions.
    Conservatives do that too. Paula Dean comes to mind. Its everyone else's fault but hers.

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    Re: Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    How about you provide a chart what the average welfare recipient receives in conjunction with their pay. Only in the most extreme cases would a single mother receive such benefits.

    If you disagree, please present the data used to collaborate this chart.
    extreme case? the chart shows what you can receive as a single mother no other qualifications required, if they don't take advantage of all the benefits that is provided whose fault is that

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    Re: Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Yeah, if you want to go to a university - community college is free - not to mention students can get grants which cover living expenses while they're attending community college.

    Hell, the grants were what attracted me to go to college in the first place - it was extra income.
    Community college isn't free. Not everyone gets grants.

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    Re: Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    WHERE are you people coming up with all these "fantasy" jobs? There are millions of people out of work. Educated as well as under- and uneducated. Most people work in SERVICE jobs paying minimum wage or under. 59% in fact if we can believe Bureau of Labor statistics for June 2013.

    Employers are outsourcing more jobs overseas and buidling a cheaper skilled labor force there, while hiring more temps and part-time workers in the US. When they do build new factories in the USA it appears they are automating them as much as possible to remove the need for "skilled workers." Sure, tech jobs are growing, but still hadly at a pace to meet the jobless population.

    Lets face it. Corporations are all about profit, and now that they have expanded worldwide, they refuse to deal with American "nonsense" about "honest pay for an honest days labor."

    So. Where. Are. All. These. "Worthwhile." Non-entry Level. Jobs????
    That's what you get when the government assaults businesses with epic taxes and regulations...

    Business are in business to make money and every time our government goes into attack mode with their taxes they may as well be taxing people out of a job -- not to mention dropping salaries....

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    Re: Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    extreme case? the chart shows what you can receive as a single mother no other qualifications required, if they don't take advantage of all the benefits that is provided whose fault is that
    The American Enterprise Institute is a right wing think tank. Show me the data they used to create the chart.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    Community college isn't free. Not everyone gets grants.
    Yeah you're right - those who can AFFORD to go to college don't get grants but those who cant afford college certainly do get grants..

    I couldn't afford to go to college, I got grants. When I finished my associates I transferred to University of Illinois, only THEN did I have to pay my tuition (student loans)...

    The real problem is that most of these people who work these minimum wage jobs are uneducated and couldn't even get into college....

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    Re: Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    WTF!!!?? A Libertarian-RIGHT suggesting welfare is the answer? LMFAO.

    I don't agree with "welfare." I WANT people to work! Offer a decent wage and I have no arguments with you.
    did i say i agreed with welfare? just pointing out the false argument that you cant live off of Walmart pay but then ignore the fact of all the government benefits you can get with your Walmart pay

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    Re: Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    Conservatives do that too. Paula Dean comes to mind. Its everyone else's fault but hers.
    She did take responsibility - not only that but she didn't say anything wrong....

    Besides, there was nothing there to even take responsibility for IMO.

    If I was her I wouldn't be sorry......It's not her fault progressives are intolerant.

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    Re: Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    That's what you get when the government assaults businesses with epic taxes and regulations...

    Business are in business to make money and every time our government goes into attack mode with their taxes they may as well be taxing people out of a job -- not to mention dropping salaries....
    Look. I am with you to a certain extent. I am not a big fan of welfare, nor of massive regulation and government oversight. But I am also a student of American history, and have studied the abuses of business that led to public demands for those government responses.

    Maybe that's why I am "left-leaning Libertarian" because I can see all the empirical evidence showing that "Whats good for business is NOT always good for the nation." All I am asking for on the part of American corporations is a little enlightened self-interest. All I see is companies like Wal-mart who will do anything to increase profits at the expense of their employees. Labor is a commodity, yes. But using and abusing it like Russian Tzars? I don't think so.
    If I stop responding it doesn't mean I've conceded the point or agree with you. It only means I've made my point and I don't mind you having the last word. Please wait a few minutes before "quoting" me. I often correct errors for a minute or two after I post before the final product is ready.

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