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    Re: Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

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    No, you haven't told me why a VAT is a hidden tax. I really want to hear why it is a hidden tax. TIA
    Allow me to give it a go....In my limited understanding, A V.A.T. is applied to every level of production, from the raw materials, to the end product, and at every level of that production the costs of the end product would rise due to the tax being applied because a V.A.T. would be in addition to the taxes now paid by these companies now doing business, not in place of.

    The average consumer does not know every level of production in the end product that they buy off the shelf, most people look at the end cost and think little about why it is so expensive, they just know that things are costing more, and that they have less.

    Maybe you could explain how yet another tax of any sort at this point and time would benefit the economy, without further eroding the buying power of the average family in this country?
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    Re: Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Allow me to give it a go....In my limited understanding, A V.A.T. is applied to every level of production, from the raw materials, to the end product, and at every level of that production the costs of the end product would rise due to the tax being applied because a V.A.T. would be in addition to the taxes now paid by these companies now doing business, not in place of.

    The average consumer does not know every level of production in the end product that they buy off the shelf, most people look at the end cost and think little about why it is so expensive, they just know that things are costing more, and that they have less.

    Maybe you could explain how yet another tax of any sort at this point and time would benefit the economy, without further eroding the buying power of the average family in this country?
    Well, they do have valid VAT receipts in many countries which show the details of a sale or other supply of goods and services, so it's not "hidden".

    As far as your second question, the only reason why it would be good is to sustain things such as health care being a biggie.

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    Re: Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Well, they do have valid VAT receipts in many countries which show the details of a sale or other supply of goods and services, so it's not "hidden".

    As far as your second question, the only reason why it would be good is to sustain things such as health care being a biggie.
    So, more wealth re distribution? Nah....Now if you want to advocate that a VAT, or Flat Tax should be instituted to abolish the IRS, and replace our current mess of a tax code? Then we can talk productively....But to use a VAT as another add on tax to what is currently in place is insane.
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    Re: Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So, more wealth re distribution? Nah....Now if you want to advocate that a VAT, or Flat Tax should be instituted to abolish the IRS, and replace our current mess of a tax code? Then we can talk productively....But to use a VAT as another add on tax to what is currently in place is insane.
    The plain truth is we don't have enough revenue to address the growing health care cost problem hitting every single country in the world. The cost of health care is going up period. If we don't address it now, we will have to either cut away and erode our health care system or go into heavy debt.

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    Re: Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    The plain truth is we don't have enough revenue to address the growing health care cost problem hitting every single country in the world. The cost of health care is going up period. If we don't address it now, we will have to either cut away and erode our health care system or go into heavy debt.
    You pose an 'either/or' fallacy. There are more than two possibilities.
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    Re: Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You pose an 'either/or' fallacy. There are more than two possibilities.
    I'm not presenting an "either/or fallacy". I'm merely stating that without a sufficient tax base, we can't afford rising health care cost. Feel free to bring up other methods to support the rising costs.

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    Re: Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Well, they do have valid VAT receipts in many countries which show the details of a sale or other supply of goods and services, so it's not "hidden".

    As far as your second question, the only reason why it would be good is to sustain things such as health care being a biggie.
    So when you go to make a purchase you can see the total amount of tax you are paying for a thing? I believe you are telling stories.

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    Re: Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    The plain truth is we don't have enough revenue to address the growing health care cost problem hitting every single country in the world. The cost of health care is going up period. If we don't address it now, we will have to either cut away and erode our health care system or go into heavy debt.
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    Re: Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    What you are doing is cherry picking information.
    No, I'm not. I'm talking about taxes and the effect of the rate. You, however, keep trying to divert with things like economic bubbles.
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    Re: Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    The plain truth is we don't have enough revenue to address the growing health care cost problem hitting every single country in the world. The cost of health care is going up period. If we don't address it now, we will have to either cut away and erode our health care system or go into heavy debt.
    I know, we could stop trying to force socialized medicine on everyone.
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