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    Re: Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    Wow, you're right, NOBODY with those degrees are unemployed.
    That's not what was posted, and you obviously know that, otherwise you wouldn't have felt a need for the capitalization...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    That's not what was posted, and you obviously know that, otherwise you wouldn't have felt a need for the capitalization...
    Just saying people with "good degrees" are still living on minimum wage jobs.
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    Re: Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    Just saying people with "good degrees" are still living on minimum wage jobs.
    I suppose there are some areas of the country where that's true. They should move.
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    Re: Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    Just saying people with "good degrees" are still living on minimum wage jobs.
    What do you consider good degrees where there is difficulty finding employment at an appropriate wage level?
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    Wow, you're right, NOBODY with those degrees are unemployed.
    Oops, it appears Paul is wrong: Is President Obama Right About Engineers? | Center for Immigration Studies

    During a recent video chat session, President Obama told a woman that he could not understand why her engineer husband was unemployed because “industry tells me that they don’t have enough highly skilled engineers.” However, data from the American Community Survey collected by the Census Bureau show that there are a total of 1.8 million U.S.-born individuals with engineering degrees who are either unemployed, out of the labor market, or not working as engineers. This is true for those with many different types of engineering degrees.

    The 2010 American Community Survey shows:

    There are 101,000 U.S.-born individuals with an engineering degree who are unemployed.

    There are an additional 244,000 U.S.-born individuals under age 65 who have a degree in engineering but who are not in the labor market. This means they are not working nor are they looking for work, and are therefore not counted as unemployed.

    In addition to those unemployed and out of the labor force, there are an additional 1.47 million U.S.-born individuals who report they have an engineering degree and have a job, but do not work as engineers.

    President Obama specifically used the words “highly skilled.” In 2010, there were 25,000 unemployed U.S.-born individuals with engineering degrees who have a Master’s or PhD and another 68,000 with advanced degrees not in the labor force. There were also 489,000 U.S.-born individuals with graduate degrees who were working, but not as engineers.

    Relatively low pay and perhaps a strong bias on the part of some employers to hire foreign workers seems to have pushed many American engineers out their profession.

    There are many different types of engineering degrees. But unemployment, non-work, or working outside of your field is common for Americans with many different types of engineering degrees. (Detailed employment figures for specific types of engineers are provided below.)

    The key policy question for the United States is how many foreign engineers should be admitted in the future. Contrary to President Obama’s statement, the latest data from the Census Bureau indicate there is a very large supply of American-born engineers in the country. It would be better for the president to seek more diverse sources of information than simply relying on “industry” to determine what is going on in the U.S. labor market.
    Data Source: Figures for the above analysis come from a Center for Immigration Studies analysis of the public-use file of the 2010 American Community Survey (ACS) collected by the U.S. Census Bureau. Figures on degrees and employment are based on self-reporting in the survey and have been rounded to their nearest thousand. The survey asks about undergraduate degrees, so some of the individuals who have a Master’s or PhD may not have their graduate degree in engineering. Also, those who indicated that they have a “professional degree” are not included in the discussion of those with Master’s and PhDs because a large share have law degrees. The 2010 data is the most recent ACS available.

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    Re: Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    ok...? Why does one want to get a higher education when you can get the same exact low wage job without one?
    Exactly. Why borrow masive funds to "invest" in qualifying for a fantasy job that does not exist. While it may, indeed, be fun to go to college, continue to "party" for 4 to 5 years and study underwater basketweaving it is not very likely to create any demand for that specialized "skill". One can get a far better return on their investment by borrowing to get a decent used work truck and some basic tools for a trade, say carpentry. What you can learn on the job, while still being able to feed yourself and repay the much smaller loan, will more quickly advance your skills and thus your income potential.

    Taking occasional classes at a community college to better hone your business management skills and broaden your skills in other basic areas can also be done while you are still able to work at a trade and support yourself. The idea that education alone will leave you magically set for life, and you can immediately enter the middle class, is a sales pitch best investigated before you commit to that liberal arts program "investment" at your college of choice.
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    Re: Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    What do you consider good degrees where there is difficulty finding employment at an appropriate wage level?
    Furthermore, the reason why professions such as engineering isn't hiring just American engineers in the country is because they demand higher wages than say someone from India who could make half the wage. We are undercutting our professional workforce too not just McDonald and Walmart workers.

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    Re: Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Oops, it appears Paul is wrong: Is President Obama Right About Engineers? | Center for Immigration Studies

    During a recent video chat session, President Obama told a woman that he could not understand why her engineer husband was unemployed because “industry tells me that they don’t have enough highly skilled engineers.” However, data from the American Community Survey collected by the Census Bureau show that there are a total of 1.8 million U.S.-born individuals with engineering degrees who are either unemployed, out of the labor market, or not working as engineers. This is true for those with many different types of engineering degrees.

    The 2010 American Community Survey shows:

    There are 101,000 U.S.-born individuals with an engineering degree who are unemployed.

    There are an additional 244,000 U.S.-born individuals under age 65 who have a degree in engineering but who are not in the labor market. This means they are not working nor are they looking for work, and are therefore not counted as unemployed.

    In addition to those unemployed and out of the labor force, there are an additional 1.47 million U.S.-born individuals who report they have an engineering degree and have a job, but do not work as engineers.

    President Obama specifically used the words “highly skilled.” In 2010, there were 25,000 unemployed U.S.-born individuals with engineering degrees who have a Master’s or PhD and another 68,000 with advanced degrees not in the labor force. There were also 489,000 U.S.-born individuals with graduate degrees who were working, but not as engineers.

    Relatively low pay and perhaps a strong bias on the part of some employers to hire foreign workers seems to have pushed many American engineers out their profession.

    There are many different types of engineering degrees. But unemployment, non-work, or working outside of your field is common for Americans with many different types of engineering degrees. (Detailed employment figures for specific types of engineers are provided below.)

    The key policy question for the United States is how many foreign engineers should be admitted in the future. Contrary to President Obama’s statement, the latest data from the Census Bureau indicate there is a very large supply of American-born engineers in the country. It would be better for the president to seek more diverse sources of information than simply relying on “industry” to determine what is going on in the U.S. labor market.
    Data Source: Figures for the above analysis come from a Center for Immigration Studies analysis of the public-use file of the 2010 American Community Survey (ACS) collected by the U.S. Census Bureau. Figures on degrees and employment are based on self-reporting in the survey and have been rounded to their nearest thousand. The survey asks about undergraduate degrees, so some of the individuals who have a Master’s or PhD may not have their graduate degree in engineering. Also, those who indicated that they have a “professional degree” are not included in the discussion of those with Master’s and PhDs because a large share have law degrees. The 2010 data is the most recent ACS available.
    Nice opinion piece, but it doesn't alter or conflict with what was previously posted...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Nice opinion piece, but it doesn't alter or conflict with what was previously posted...
    Nice try Paul but it is not an opinion piece. There is data to support its claim. If you click on the link you will find more info.

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    Re: Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I suppose there are some areas of the country where that's true. They should move.
    Not every person can just pick up and move
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