Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 22

Thread: Kentucky ending private prisons

  1. #11
    Sage
    Peter King's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Netherlands
    Last Seen
    Today @ 09:08 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    14,026

    Re: Kentucky ending private prisons

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Our prison system as a whole needs an overhaul. In fact, our entire concept of punishment for crimes needs an overhaul. I don't know if I have the answer, but from what I can tell, private prisons do not seem to have been the right reform.
    The whole legal system needs an overhaul, way too many get jailed for far too long in non-violent crimes.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

  2. #12
    Engineer

    RabidAlpaca's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    American in Europe
    Last Seen
    Today @ 05:01 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Left
    Posts
    14,567

    Re: Kentucky ending private prisons

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Kentucky ending private prisons

    The state will not renew a contract with the private Marion Adjustment Center when it expires on Sunday meaning that for the first time in nearly 30 years Kentucky will soon be housing none of its inmates in privately-run prisons.

    J. Michael Brown, the state Justice and Public Safety secretary, said in a news release Tuesday that the move will save the state about $2 million a year. And he credited a 2011 law and other steps taken by the General Assembly and the Beshear administration that reformed sentencing and increased drug treatment opportunities.

    Whodda thunk it? Kentucky leading the nation in smarts. Let's hope the rest of the nation follows suit.
    I think private prisons and a privatized justice system are the most vile things I could possibly imagine. I hope this works well and many other states do the same.

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Why? The public sector unions will love it. More public sector employees!! Whoot!!
    If any portion of our government should be clean, it should be the justice system. Turning locking people in cages into a business is unbelievably morally ****ed. The justice system is the single most important part of our entire government.
    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    I've got to say that it is shadenfreudalicious to see the rich and famous fucquewads on the coast suffering from the fires.

  3. #13
    Sage
    Slyfox696's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Last Seen
    Today @ 06:27 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    7,980

    Re: Kentucky ending private prisons

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    The whole legal system needs an overhaul, way too many get jailed for far too long in non-violent crimes.
    I'd even argue too many jailed for far too long for some violent crimes.

    The problem is society doesn't care about those who are in prison. We're comfortable with the concept "out of sight, out of mind", not realizing by not putting resources into prisons, all we're doing is continuing to make the problem worse. There are some people who are simply evil, and no amount of assistance will ever help them. But I do not believe that to be the case with most people, even prisoners. But we throw them in jail, for years or even decades, and then act surprised when they get out of jail and are not capable of functioning in society.

    The reform has to come in terms of education. Not just book learning, but learning of skills, learning of proper behavior, etc. As I said, some will never reform, but I think most people would prefer to live a better life.

  4. #14
    Slayer of the DP Newsbot
    danarhea's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Houston, TX
    Last Seen
    Today @ 08:40 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    39,737

    Re: Kentucky ending private prisons

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Kentucky ending private prisons

    The state will not renew a contract with the private Marion Adjustment Center when it expires on Sunday meaning that for the first time in nearly 30 years Kentucky will soon be housing none of its inmates in privately-run prisons.

    J. Michael Brown, the state Justice and Public Safety secretary, said in a news release Tuesday that the move will save the state about $2 million a year. And he credited a 2011 law and other steps taken by the General Assembly and the Beshear administration that reformed sentencing and increased drug treatment opportunities.

    Whodda thunk it? Kentucky leading the nation in smarts. Let's hope the rest of the nation follows suit.
    Good for Kentucky. Unfortunately for Texas, the for-profit prison plantation system is still here, and a few companies are making lots of money from the work that prisoners do. Not that I feel sorry for the prisoners. I don't. They should do their time, but even they should not be slaves.
    The ghost of Jack Kevorkian for President's Physician: 2016

  5. #15
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Melbourne Florida
    Last Seen
    04-18-17 @ 03:15 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    16,763

    Re: Kentucky ending private prisons

    Let them all out, and let society take care of them. One at a time.

  6. #16
    Resident Cat Expert
    Green Balls's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    Indianapolis
    Last Seen
    11-13-15 @ 08:02 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    1,292

    Re: Kentucky ending private prisons

    Kentucky should have started with Christian County jail. That is the home base for one of the largest privatized extraditing companies. That company makes $100 per day for each prisoner they transport. Average trip from one jail to another is 7 days. They charge the inmate, but most often the taxpayers eat the cost.
    Scientific fact: If you took all of the veins from your body and laid them end to end, you would die.

  7. #17
    Sage
    Ikari's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Colorado
    Last Seen
    12-08-17 @ 01:05 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Left
    Posts
    54,124

    Re: Kentucky ending private prisons

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Kentucky ending private prisons

    The state will not renew a contract with the private Marion Adjustment Center when it expires on Sunday meaning that for the first time in nearly 30 years Kentucky will soon be housing none of its inmates in privately-run prisons.

    J. Michael Brown, the state Justice and Public Safety secretary, said in a news release Tuesday that the move will save the state about $2 million a year. And he credited a 2011 law and other steps taken by the General Assembly and the Beshear administration that reformed sentencing and increased drug treatment opportunities.

    Whodda thunk it? Kentucky leading the nation in smarts. Let's hope the rest of the nation follows suit.
    I wouldn't hold my breath, there's a lot of money to be made there and a lot of politicians friends wealth at stake. The corporate Prison system is no different than any other branch of our Corporate State.

    Though I don't really see why we have private prisons in the first place.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

  8. #18
    Sage
    poweRob's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Last Seen
    Today @ 08:44 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Progressive
    Posts
    35,014

    Re: Kentucky ending private prisons

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    The prison I currently work at is slowly being privatized one department at a time. The state is shooting itself in the foot. It is going to end up costing them much, much more in the long run.
    I know... People hear the word "privatized" and all the sudden get so dumb that they can't see that the money paying for it is STILL taxpayer funded. Now there is a middle man working a profit margin on top of it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

  9. #19
    Sage
    poweRob's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Last Seen
    Today @ 08:44 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Progressive
    Posts
    35,014

    Re: Kentucky ending private prisons

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    I'd even argue too many jailed for far too long for some violent crimes.

    The problem is society doesn't care about those who are in prison. We're comfortable with the concept "out of sight, out of mind", not realizing by not putting resources into prisons, all we're doing is continuing to make the problem worse. There are some people who are simply evil, and no amount of assistance will ever help them. But I do not believe that to be the case with most people, even prisoners. But we throw them in jail, for years or even decades, and then act surprised when they get out of jail and are not capable of functioning in society.

    The reform has to come in terms of education. Not just book learning, but learning of skills, learning of proper behavior, etc. As I said, some will never reform, but I think most people would prefer to live a better life.
    What's sad about our system is far too often it is based off of electoral clout. So to win an election you run by saying how ****ty you will treat "criminals". The whole "he's tough on crime!" schtick. So instead of trying or envisioning several different angles to try and break recidivism we elect those who promise to crap on everyone behind bars as hard as possible becuase of the "they deserve it" thought process.

    What they deserve is the sentence they got. That isn't the question. What you do with them while they are in there is what creates the kind of person that comes out of there. And when we elect the "tough on crime" person, what happens to those in prison pretty much always creates a worse criminal that comes out. We are waaayyyy backwards in our prison system.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

  10. #20
    Sage
    SheWolf's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Last Seen
    Today @ 08:40 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    24,504

    Re: Kentucky ending private prisons

    Why does it end up costing more?



    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    The prison I currently work at is slowly being privatized one department at a time. The state is shooting itself in the foot. It is going to end up costing them much, much more in the long run.

Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •