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    Re: Federal judge temporarily blocks new Wisconsin abortion law..................[W:4

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I see, so because she has an ELECTIVE
    INVASIVE procedure, that makes it ok to add an UN-ELECTIVE invasive procedure just because you like it.

    And people wonder where the idea that conservatives are against women's rights comes from.
    No it has nothing to do with me.

    I chose to keep my children, well my wife and I chose.

    Even with all of the false narratives and hyperbolic cries from the left about abortion one thing stays consistent.

    That an abortion, 100% of the time ends a human life. It stops a beating heart.

    So if additional regulations that do not take away the right of a woman to kill her baby might save a human life then I have no problem with it

    In Texas we had a State legislator stand up with a "cort hanger" and " terpintime" barely speaking the language of English, demagoging this issue this week

    It was par for the course when it comes to Liberal Democrats. Hypocritical with barely a grasp on the issue.

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    Re: Federal judge temporarily blocks new Wisconsin abortion law..................[W:4

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    But there ARE restrictions on Fire Arms.
    And you suppor tthem? And do you support them based on the same standard YOU just put forth, which is that any form of limitation is okay as long as it comes short of stopping it from being possible?

    I can't mount of Morgan Gun to the bed of my F150, or shoot skeet with a RPG 7, or even own a fully automatic weapon.
    Absolutely.

    And I think you should be able to do the first one on private property, though believe it's within the states power to restrict it's access on public roads.

    The RPG's issue is it falls into a grey area for me as I see the 2nd in terms of the notion of small arms, such as what an individual within a militia would own, rather than "artillery" such as canons and other such objects whose primary purposes is clearly for interstate warfare than personal defense. Still, if some private range wanted to offer up that experience I don't have a huge issue with it.

    I'm also hardly a fan of the outright ban on owning a fully automatic weapon.

    None of those things are actual good analogs however.

    What you're suggesting is that the government should be able to force an individual to have to purchase and/or undertake an unnecessary private service for no legitimate government purpose NOR for any legitimate purpose relating to the original service being rendered.

    So it would be akin to making individuals undertake a class where for an hour they're sat in a dark room and shown horrific images of gunshot wound victims while sounds of gunfire and screaming are occuring prior to being able to purchase any firearm...all for the purpose of making people really "think" about what they're purchasing.

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    Re: Federal judge temporarily blocks new Wisconsin abortion law..................[W:4

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    But there ARE restrictions on Fire Arms.

    I can't mount of Morgan Gun to the bed of my F150, or shoot skeet with a RPG 7, or even own a fully automatic weapon.

    Restrictions that I'm ok with.
    Ok. Let's make it illegal to sell, purchase, trade, gift, transfer, or construct firearms in a state, and illegal to transport them into the state from outside. Your right to bear arms isn't being infringed at all!
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Federal judge temporarily blocks new Wisconsin abortion law..................[W:4

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    No it has nothing to do with me.

    I chose to keep my children, well my wife and I chose.

    Even with all of the false narratives and hyperbolic cries from the left about abortion one thing stays consistent.

    That an abortion, 100% of the time ends a human life. It stops a beating heart.

    So if additional regulations that do not take away the right of a woman to kill her baby might save a human life then I have no problem with it

    In Texas we had a State legislator stand up with a "cort hanger" and " terpintime" barely speaking the language of English, demagoging this issue this week

    It was par for the course when it comes to Liberal Democrats. Hypocritical with barely a grasp on the issue.
    Yet again, so you are against women's rights in that you want an UN-ELECTIVE invasive procedure added that is NOT needed for an abortion simply to fuel your's and others self-righteous needs.

    don't like abortions, DON'T HAVE ONE.

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    Re: Federal judge temporarily blocks new Wisconsin abortion law..................[W:4

    They are simply saying the person who wants an abortion must look at an ultrasound. What are the critics afraid of? That the person might change their mind,and realize that it's actually a life they are taking? They can still abort to their hearts desire,they would just have to face what they are really doing.

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    Re: Federal judge temporarily blocks new Wisconsin abortion law..................[W:4

    Quote Originally Posted by Drake McHugh View Post
    They are simply saying the person who wants an abortion must look at an ultrasound. What are the critics afraid of? That the person might change their mind,and realize that it's actually a life they are taking? They can still abort to their hearts desire,they would just have to face what they are really doing.
    A transvaginal ultrasound. This involves sticking a large, painful object in a woman's vagina against her will and making it pulse in a low frequency, highly uncomfortable manner. Via government decree. Against the judgment of the patient and doctor. Seriously, if I did that it would be aggravated sexual assault.

    And we're getting off-topic here, because the key part of the blocked bill isn't about ultrasounds, it's about a ridiculous hospital admitting requirement that is medically unnecessary and drastically reduces the availability of a legal medical procedure. By government decree. Which is suddenly ok when Republicans do it.
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    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Federal judge temporarily blocks new Wisconsin abortion law..................[W:4

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    Requiring an ultrasound is just an increasingly desperate attempt by monotheists to guilt trip others into sharing values that they obviously don't share.................
    If someone is solid in their belief that abortion is alright, viewing the child that person is about to murder, shouldn't bother them at all.

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    Re: Federal judge temporarily blocks new Wisconsin abortion law..................[W:4

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    If someone is solid in their belief that abortion is alright, viewing the child that person is about to murder, shouldn't bother them at all.
    If someone is solid in their belief that the government shouldn't be dictating medical procedures to you and your doctor, it would bother them substantially.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Federal judge temporarily blocks new Wisconsin abortion law..................[W:4

    Quote Originally Posted by Drake McHugh View Post
    What are the critics afraid of?
    Giving greater power to the government over the private market, specifically the medical market, and over what measures individuals must be governmentally mandated to undertake to partake in private services.

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    Re: Federal judge temporarily blocks new Wisconsin abortion law..................[W:4

    Quote Originally Posted by Drake McHugh View Post
    They are simply saying the person who wants an abortion must look at an ultrasound. What are the critics afraid of? That the person might change their mind,and realize that it's actually a life they are taking? They can still abort to their hearts desire,they would just have to face what they are really doing.
    Gun owners are taught to identify the target before firing. Shouldn't this requirement be carried over to abortion?

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