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    Re: GOP to White House: ObamaCare delay for businesses unfair to everyone else

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    Probably real close to being 100% correct.

    Only the low information types really think the real purpose behind Obamacare was for everyone to get health insurance to begin with. The real purpose was of course, additional government control over everyone's life.
    You forgot the fact that Obama wants to sell the country to China, and abort everybody after taking their guns, turning them gay and converting them to atheist muslim vegan pacifist communist pedophiles.

    Next time, you might want to froth at the mouth more and make sure your foil hat is on straight. Trust me, it'll make your case look much more presentable.

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    Re: GOP to White House: ObamaCare delay for businesses unfair to everyone else

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Steel View Post
    Blame the Republicans. Their obstruction and obfuscation of everything the Democrats proposed is the reason we are facing difficulties. Had they cooperated with the American People, we'd be moving on to something else. Instead, we're constantly revisiting what should be finished.

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    Re: GOP to White House: ObamaCare delay for businesses unfair to everyone else

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Steel View Post
    Blame the Republicans. Their obstruction and obfuscation of everything the Democrats proposed is the reason we are facing difficulties. Had they cooperated with the American People, we'd be moving on to something else. Instead, we're constantly revisiting what should be finished.
    I really don't believe that. It has been status quo for way to long to blame it on one party. Anything short of blaming the entire lot reeks of partisan hackery.
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    Re: GOP to White House: ObamaCare delay for businesses unfair to everyone else

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    I really don't believe that. It has been status quo for way to long to blame it on one party. Anything short of blaming the entire lot reeks of partisan hackery.
    I partially can accept your comment. The problems America faces cannot be blamed exclusively on the Republicans. Conservatism really is at the heart of our problems and some Democrats are conservative. So if you define "partisan" as liberal or conservative, you're right. Conservatism is causing our political system to fail.
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    Re: GOP to White House: ObamaCare delay for businesses unfair to everyone else

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Steel View Post
    I partially can accept your comment. The problems America faces cannot be blamed exclusively on the Republicans. Conservatism really is at the heart of our problems and some Democrats are conservative. So if you define "partisan" as liberal or conservative, you're right. Conservatism is causing our political system to fail.
    I'll bite.

    In the context of this thread, how is conservatism causing the failure to implement Obamacare to large corporations while it is being inacted on the citizens and small businesses? The GOP is saying that is unfair. How did conservatism cause this event that the head of the Executive branch has taken the law that was written and supported by our elected leaders and decided it doesn't apply to big business?
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    Re: GOP to White House: ObamaCare delay for businesses unfair to everyone else

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
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    "White House spokesman Jay Carney said the administration has no intention of delaying the individual mandate."

    This President is SUCH A PUPPET to big business it is unbelievable. First he grants insurance companies exemptions to the law, along with his BIG donors, the unions. Now he is granting business a one year exemption. So how are democrates going to defend this businesses get a break but not the people.
    They have (most of) the press firmly on their side, just as with "dreamy" immigration law enforcement or the "BOLO lists" for taxation law "special attention". The demorats need lots of campaign cash to help them in the 2014 "mid term" elections, as well as knowing that this "mandate" will cost jobs - even the press cannot help spin job loss into a "good thing". First it was only selected "waivers" and "special exemptions" to get the law passed, but now that they realize the true impact of this nonsense, it must be "delayed" until after the upcomming elections. All Obama has to do is claim that "infrastructure is not yet in place", we (never I) "must set proirities" or that we "lack resources" and then he can simply ignore enforcement of any law(s) that he wishes to.
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    Re: GOP to White House: ObamaCare delay for businesses unfair to everyone else

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    They have (most of) the press firmly on their side, just as with "dreamy" immigration law enforcement or the "BOLO lists" for taxation law "special attention". The demorats need lots of campaign cash to help them in the 2014 "mid term" elections, as well as knowing that this "mandate" will cost jobs - even the press cannot help spin job loss into a "good thing". First it was only selected "waivers" and "special exemptions" to get the law passed, but now that they realize the true impact of this nonsense, it must be "delayed" until after the upcomming elections. All Obama has to do is claim that "infrastructure is not yet in place", we (never I) "must set proirities" or that we "lack resources" and then he can simply ignore enforcement of any law(s) that he wishes to.
    Which sets a terrible precedent. Too much Executive power.

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    Re: GOP to White House: ObamaCare delay for businesses unfair to everyone else

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    I'll bite.

    In the context of this thread, how is conservatism causing the failure to implement Obamacare to large corporations while it is being inacted on the citizens and small businesses? The GOP is saying that is unfair. How did conservatism cause this event that the head of the Executive branch has taken the law that was written and supported by our elected leaders and decided it doesn't apply to big business?
    PPACA is complicated. That's the reason implementation of the employer mandate has been delayed. Affected employers say they need more time to create reporting systems and adjust their benefit structures. That wouldn't be necessary had we not had to settle for such a complicated method of semi-universal health care. Had we opted for some form of universal, single-payer health care, we wouldn't be dealing with all the complicated details of PPACA. That, of course, was impossible. Conservatives insisted on market-based approaches. That complicates everything because market-based approaches to public policy problems rarely work well. The only way to make them work is by rigging the market. That's what we had to do with PPACA and it resulted in complications.
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    Re: GOP to White House: ObamaCare delay for businesses unfair to everyone else

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Steel View Post
    PPACA is complicated. That's the reason implementation of the employer mandate has been delayed. Affected employers say they need more time to create reporting systems and adjust their benefit structures. That wouldn't be necessary had we not had to settle for such a complicated method of semi-universal health care. Had we opted for some form of universal, single-payer health care, we wouldn't be dealing with all the complicated details of PPACA. That, of course, was impossible. Conservatives insisted on market-based approaches. That complicates everything because market-based approaches to public policy problems rarely work well. The only way to make them work is by rigging the market. That's what we had to do with PPACA and it resulted in complications.
    PPACA is politically complicated if its all implemented the way its supposed to be.

    Mid terms are just around the corner dontchaknow.

    For those wondering about immigration, this lack of executive branch ethics is why the GOP is not taking up immigration reform. They have no confidence the current President will execute the laws they write.

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    Re: GOP to White House: ObamaCare delay for businesses unfair to everyone else

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    PPACA is politically complicated if its all implemented the way its supposed to be.

    Mid terms are just around the corner dontchaknow.

    For those wondering about immigration, this lack of executive branch ethics is why the GOP is not taking up immigration reform. They have no confidence the current President will execute the laws they write.
    That may be what the Republicans say but most Americans know that Republicans don't like brown persons and aren't going to do anything to make their lives easier.
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