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    Re: 2001-2010 was the warmest decade since records began

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Yes, please do explain it.

    Every place the AR4 talks about the 0.12 W/m^2 solar forcing, they call it "direct forcing." I'm sure you read my explanation on this in other threads, so tell me. What am I missing?
    Solar forcing effect on climate change 'extremely small': IPCC scientist

    Has an effect but isn't significant enough to be "the culprit".

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    Re: 2001-2010 was the warmest decade since records began

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    No, once again when confronted with the weaknesses of the case for anthropogenic global warming, the alarmists change the subject.

    There is little dispute among knowledgable skeptics about the fact that the world is gradually warming (estimates of how fast vary).

    The unresolved questions are these: 1) What is causing the warming? 2) Is there anything even remotely feasible that mankind can do that will significantly alter this trend?

    Following the example of Matt Ridley, I accept the consensus on the theory of evolution because the available data supports that theory.

    I accept the consensus on most other areas of science for the same reason.

    I do not accept the consensus on AGW because, from what I can tell, the data and the methods of climate scientists do not adequately support that theory.
    What are your qualifications when it comes to climatology? The telling phrase here is 'from what I can tell'. What can you tell exactly? How can you know if the methods don't support the theory if you're not an expert in the field? Why do the vast, vast majority of climatologists who've spent years researching climate change think the methods do support the theory?

    If you have proof that 90+% of climatologists are wrong, then feel free to publish a peer reviewed paper showing that the methods are wrong.

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    Re: 2001-2010 was the warmest decade since records began

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Sure they can have regional effect. In fact, while the Aral Sea was drying up there was large tracts of Russia becoming green and fertile. So what is the net change to global climate?
    The Aral Sea was once one of the largest inland body's of water in the world, now it is little more then a lake. And it was not caused by natural climate change, it was because the people of the region used inefficient agricultural practices and deprived the Aral Sea of its source of water.

    Thousands of species are now extinct and what was once a large sea is now a desert. If that is not manmade climate change I will be amused to find out why.

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    Re: 2001-2010 was the warmest decade since records began

    Yeah, I believe there is probably global warming.

    I also don't care that much.

    I believe I do my part to help the environment.

    And I will be dead before global warming will probably affect me.

    So why should I worry?


    Besides, if humankind is so stupid that they let this thing get out of control (if it's true) and it wipes them/us all out...then we deserved it and the universe is better off without such dumbasses.

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    Re: 2001-2010 was the warmest decade since records began

    Why are all the ACC deniers right wing?

    Is it because they don't want to be seen agreeing with the Democrat Al Gore?
    Is it because oil companies, who produce anti climate change propaganda because they want petrol to remain dominant, fund the GOP?

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    Re: 2001-2010 was the warmest decade since records began

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    And water is wet.
    Now quit evading the answer... do you honestly believe the planet is not getting warmer? A yes or no will suffice.
    Your moving the goal posts. The real debate has always been about AGW (man-made climate change), not about all other climate change. We climate change during the dinosaurs, no debates that.
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    Re: 2001-2010 was the warmest decade since records began

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    The Aral Sea was once one of the largest inland body's of water in the world, now it is little more then a lake. And it was not caused by natural climate change, it was because the people of the region used inefficient agricultural practices and deprived the Aral Sea of its source of water.

    Thousands of species are now extinct and what was once a large sea is now a desert. If that is not manmade climate change I will be amused to find out why.

    I didn't say it wasn't. I only pointed out that in terms of GLOBAL WARMING you need to know what change occurred in the GLOBAL CLIMATE due to the added greening of the areas of Russia where that water was diverted to.

    The only thing we can conclude for certain from your example is that the Russian government is a bunch of a-holes.

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    Re: 2001-2010 was the warmest decade since records began

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    There are also people who thinks the sun doesn't matter. I never understood that since the sun is the source of 99.99+% of the energy that becomes measurable temperature on earth.
    I have had a pond since 1990. I never had algae growth in the winter but I do now and each year it gets worse. And I have noticed that weeds do not die off either. So, something is going on.
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    Re: 2001-2010 was the warmest decade since records began

    Quote Originally Posted by Homer. View Post
    Why are all the ACC deniers right wing?
    Because we are smart and actually read the literature before deciding rather than abdicate our own intellectual sovereignty to hucksters and snake oil salesmen.

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    Re: 2001-2010 was the warmest decade since records began

    Quote Originally Posted by Carleen View Post
    I have had a pond since 1990. I never had algae growth in the winter but I do now and each year it gets worse. And I have noticed that weeds do not die off either. So, something is going on.
    Must me Sasquatch, seeking relief from the heat, swimming in your pond. It's the only logical conclusion.

    Anyone who disagrees is obviously an algae denier.

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