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    2001-2010 was the warmest decade since records began

    Wow. I hope NASA reads blogs on Yahoo. That just blew decades of research done by the best scientists out of the water.

    Or maybe its some yahoo writing on a blog on yahoo.
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    Re: 2001-2010 was the warmest decade since records began

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Promising to "heal the planet" (stop it from warming in a warming era) IS promising the moon and stars and the sad part is people believed him. Sadder yet is he believed himself.
    Did he?
    I'm not so sure any politician actually believes all the stuff they promise if elected, but maybe. My theory is that the way to get elected is to tell people what they want to hear, and the candidate who does this the best is the one who gets elected.

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    Re: 2001-2010 was the warmest decade since records began

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    Co2 does not "trap" heat, it can absorb and re-emit radiation in the infrared spectrum,
    Yes, that's correct. But scientists use the more general term "trapping" when discussing the more technical process among the general public, hence I used that term. One example from NASA:

    "The heat-trapping nature of carbon dioxide and other gases was demonstrated in the mid-19th century"

    Climate Change: Evidence

    The expected heat gain from doubling Co2 from 280 ppm to 560 ppm would be between
    1.5 and 2 degrees C, much lower that the 3 to 4 degrees C put out by the alarmist.
    I referenced uncertainties exist in the climate sensitivity associated with the increase in CO2. Uncertainties exist due to various feedbacks, some of which could dampen the rise, others that could amplify it.

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    Re: 2001-2010 was the warmest decade since records began

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    The argument is not that the sun does not matter. The argument is that the sun's activity, which has remained remarkably constant (fluctuations are minor relative to its overall energy output), cannot explain the extent of warming that has taken place. In addition, since the mid-20th century, global temperatures have decoupled from solar variation.
    Yeah, the prediction is that you'll get a feedback loop due to melting of permafrost containing methane and Co2, which will increase the temperature, which will melt more permafrost, which will increase the temperature.... it's already starting to happen.

    The real imminent danger is not that mankind will singlehandedly warm the planet and cause catastrophes, but to vastly accelerate natural processes to the point of a feedback loop.

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    Re: 2001-2010 was the warmest decade since records began

    Quote Originally Posted by Morrigi View Post
    Yeah, the prediction is that you'll get a feedback loop due to melting of permafrost containing methane and Co2, which will increase the temperature, which will melt more permafrost, which will increase the temperature.... it's already starting to happen.

    The real imminent danger is not that mankind will singlehandedly warm the planet and cause catastrophes, but to vastly accelerate natural processes to the point of a feedback loop.


    Yet somehow in the billions of years this planet has existed this feedback loop have never happened, even when atmospheric CO2 concentrations were many times higher than today.

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    Re: 2001-2010 was the warmest decade since records began

    That would be because natural changes happen over tens of thousands if not millions of years, not a century or two.

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    Re: 2001-2010 was the warmest decade since records began

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Yes, that's correct. But scientists use the more general term "trapping" when discussing the more technical process among the general public, hence I used that term. One example from NASA:

    "The heat-trapping nature of carbon dioxide and other gases was demonstrated in the mid-19th century"

    Climate Change: Evidence



    I referenced uncertainties exist in the climate sensitivity associated with the increase in CO2. Uncertainties exist due to various feedbacks, some of which could dampen the rise, others that could amplify it.
    Until they define and quantify the hypothesized feedbacks in a way that others can validate
    the hypothesis, they still only have an observational theory.
    I know that excited nitrogen can pass about 2300 cm-1 to Co2 as a vibrational state,
    I don't know if it can pass it back the other way.
    Many quantum energy transfers only go one way, and many structures are VERY selective
    of the absorbed and re emitted frequencies. (spectroscopy)

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    Re: 2001-2010 was the warmest decade since records began

    Quote Originally Posted by Morrigi View Post
    That would be because natural changes happen over tens of thousands if not millions of years, not a century or two.
    That isn't true. Vostok ice cores show rather rapid change is consistent over the last 400k years:

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    2001-2010 was the warmest decade since records began

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    That isn't true. Vostok ice cores show rather rapid change is consistent over the last 400k years:

    tempplot5.jpg
    Oh, motivator. You can't trust that data because it was collected and interpreted by SCIENTISTS, and we know you don't believe them.
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    Re: 2001-2010 was the warmest decade since records began

    The Earth has been 12 degrees warmer and had 60% more CO2 but a single degree increase in 130 years is a crisis.


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