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    2001-2010 was the warmest decade since records began

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You said scientists are saying the sun "doesn't matter" but have yet to back up that statement in any way. So which is it. Are they saying the sun "doesn't matter" or are they saying the sun doesn't matter as much as you think it matters?

    Because there's an enormous difference between those two statements, and you don't get to whine about "understanding science" if you can't properly distinguish the two.
    Don't hold your breath for an admission.

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    Re: 2001-2010 was the warmest decade since records began

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Yeah. That's not a contradiction.

    Look up the word 'accelerating' and get back to me.
    Yet there is no sign of ocean rising any more than what would be expected where the atmosphere is cycling out of an ice-age.

    Which of course means that redistributing income from those that produced it, thus EARNED IT, to those that did not, isn't going to slow it, or stop it. Nor is there any reason to do so.

    The seas rise and the seas fall… as nature require they must. Your irrational fear of natural cycles, is however, hysterical… (in every sense of the word.

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    Re: 2001-2010 was the warmest decade since records began

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    You can not back up your statement, and that doesn't surprise me.
    Yes, I have an understanding of how the scientific process works, but that isn't the question. The question is, just who ever said that the sun doesn't matter?
    I have. Which one do I need to elaborate on?

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    Re: 2001-2010 was the warmest decade since records began

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    That doesn't tell me squat. It takes me to the top of page 7.

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    Re: 2001-2010 was the warmest decade since records began

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You said scientists are saying the sun "doesn't matter" but have yet to back up that statement in any way. So which is it. Are they saying the sun "doesn't matter" or are they saying the sun doesn't matter as much as you think it matters?

    Because there's an enormous difference between those two statements, and you don't get to whine about "understanding science" if you can't properly distinguish the two.
    A few completely dismiss it. I have also said they (the majority) don't account for the indirect forcing, and the carefully wording of the IPCC specifies direct forcing.

    Yes, they are saying the sun doesn't matter as much as I know it does. It's simple science to see they are hiding the indirect forcing elsewhere.

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    Re: 2001-2010 was the warmest decade since records began

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    I have. Which one do I need to elaborate on?
    Which one of the many people who have contended that the sun doesn't matter? I don't know, take your pick.

    or, if you prefer, perhaps you can find someone who says that the sun doesn't exist, but then, that was someone else's post, wasn't it?
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    Re: 2001-2010 was the warmest decade since records began

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    A few completely dismiss it. I have also said they (the majority) don't account for the indirect forcing, and the carefully wording of the IPCC specifies direct forcing.

    Yes, they are saying the sun doesn't matter as much as I know it does. It's simple science to see they are hiding the indirect forcing elsewhere.
    How do you know that the changing output of the sun matters as much as you think it does? How much experience do you have in astronomy or physics? Are you an ecologist? Where is your evidence that the sun alone has been causing an increase in temperature over the past 150 years?

    It's not like the IPCC didn't cover this, here's a link: IPCC Third Assessment Report - Climate Change 2001 - Complete online versions | GRID-Arendal - Publications - Other

    "The fundamental source of all energy in the climate system is the Sun so that variation in solar output provides a means for radiative forcing of climate change. It is only since the late 1970s, however, and the advent of space-borne measurements of total solar irradiance (TSI), that it has been clear that the solar "constant" does, in fact, vary. These satellite instruments suggest a variation in annual mean TSI of the order 0.08% (or about 1.1 Wm-2) between minimum and maximum of the 11-year solar cycle."

    And before you go on about how the sun has been increasing in output over decades, if you do any research you will find that nuclear fusion does not work that way in something as unimaginably massive as a star.

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    Re: 2001-2010 was the warmest decade since records began

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    A few completely dismiss it.
    Show me one. Funny how before it was "the IPCC" saying that the sun doesn't matter. Now it's an unnamed "few."


    I have also said they (the majority) don't account for the indirect forcing, and the carefully wording of the IPCC specifies direct forcing.

    Yes, they are saying the sun doesn't matter as much as I know it does. It's simple science to see they are hiding the indirect forcing elsewhere.
    Then show us where that sneaky hidden indirect forcing is. Do you mean stuff like that super sneaky research nobody has ever heard about regarding cosmic rays and cloud formation? You know, that hidden research in published journals that is routinely misinterpreted by journalists and presented as PROOF THAT CO2 DOES NOOTTHIINGGG? That indirect forcing?
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    Re: 2001-2010 was the warmest decade since records began

    The AWG Cult has now surpassed the Scientologists as the most brainwashed bunch going.

    These are the same folks who thought AIDS, Bird Flu, Swine Flu, Y2K, Killer Bees, and God knows what else was going to wipe us out long ago.

    It's nothing but a way to line pockets with government money and raise taxes on the wealthy. Transparent as can be.

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    2001-2010 was the warmest decade since records began

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The AWG Cult has now surpassed the Scientologists as the most brainwashed bunch going.

    These are the same folks who thought AIDS, Bird Flu, Swine Flu, Y2K, Killer Bees, and God knows what else was going to wipe us out long ago.

    It's nothing but a way to line pockets with government money and raise taxes on the wealthy. Transparent as can be.
    I think you watch to much E! Television and read too much National Enquirer..

    No scientists said any of that stuff (ill grant you an exception on bird flu- that's still a real threat).

    And when you start with a stupid premise, it tends to lead to stupid conclusions, like its a way to raise taxes on the wealthy.
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