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    Re: 2001-2010 was the warmest decade since records began

    Quote Originally Posted by Homer. View Post
    A new study by the WMO (World Meteorological Organisation) shows the planet "experienced unprecedented high-impact climate extremes" in the ten years from 2001 to 2010, the warmest decade since the start of modern measurements in 1850.

    Those ten years also continued an extended period of accelerating global warming, with more national temperature records reported broken than in any previous decade. Sea levels rose about twice as fast as the trend in the last century.

    Unprecedented climate extremes marked last decade, says UN | Environment | guardian.co.uk

    Further evidence, if any more were needed, that climate change is a reality. Sure, the climate change deniers, like all conspiracy theorists, will deny any evidence put before them. Hopefully this new evidence will make some people to see the reality.
    I love it. This thread will demonstrate that there are beaucoup morons among us. They eat and breathe and don't miss any TV. They consume their choice of ignorance with gusto and a true believer's naivete. They think Global Warming is about politics. Thoroughly washed and scrubbed grey matter. Don't accuse me of just addressing radical right wing wackos. Nosiree. They's a couple librarians not wrapped too tight.

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    Re: 2001-2010 was the warmest decade since records began

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    What is the maximum watt per meter squared that can be absorbed in the given spectrum? Is that what you are referring to when you stated a rate of 3.56 watts per meter squared is impossible?
    That has to do with the level of upward IR emitted from the earth. 3.56 would be possible for a doubling, but the upward IR would have to be so much greater, like in the desert regions. I'd have to double check exactly what numbers they use, but the 2.7 is based on average earth temperature. The 3.56 would never be possible for the global average, unless our global average is about 20 degrees hotter than now.

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    Re: 2001-2010 was the warmest decade since records began

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    And if the trend doesn't continue, what say you then?
    I would either say "based on the observed changes in the variables that influence temperature, this is the expected result."

    or I would say "based on the observed changes in the variables that influence temperatures, this is not the expected result! how interesting!"

    For example, if solar output continues to dip like it did with this last cycle, you'd expect temperatures to remain flatter than they were before.
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    Re: 2001-2010 was the warmest decade since records began

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Then you also visit that site and know who i talk about.



    Why is it clear? I will disagree with your assessment. I most certainly lack many parts of the science to be a climatologist. For one, I do not have faith in their religion. I do very clearly, understand the aspects I speak of, enough to know they are full of BS.
    Because you haven't actually addressed any research yet you still call it a "religion". Then you assume that climate scientists are a monolithic block driven by a singular ideology.

    Obviously the earth is getting warmer. Your entire explanation, as far as I can gather is that you believe that we're in a natural warming period. But this isn't scientific reasoning. It's what's left after you ignore any possibility that mankind has effected the climate. That's a dogmatic belief, not a rational one.

    Lets assume that you were correct. Say that increased solar energy was responsible at least in part for the warming. We'd expect that this increase would also increase pan evaporation rates. (That's the amount of water that evaporates naturally from a pan. Farmers have used and recorded it for a long time to determine how much water their crops need).

    But, over the last 50 years, we see a steady decline in pan evaporation. This would indicate global radiative dimming as well as an accelerating hydrologic cycle. Basically, the sun is getting dimmer, and the earth is getting warmer.

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    Re: 2001-2010 was the warmest decade since records began

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    So you are actually looking for a reason why algae is growing in your pond otherwise it's because of global warming?
    It never used to grow in winter now it does. Did you actually read my post?
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    Re: 2001-2010 was the warmest decade since records began

    Quote Originally Posted by Carleen View Post
    It never used to grow in winter now it does. Did you actually read my post?
    Sure I did. Regional weather isn't global warming, much less the algae growth in the pond in your back yard. Your pond is a run-off destination for water that falls far from the pond itself. Your algae growth could be the result of excess fertilizer in a neighbors yard, or neighboring farm or any of a legion of local causes that have little to do with even local temperature, let alone global climate.

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    Re: 2001-2010 was the warmest decade since records began

    Shoot. It didn't affect the U.S. which has been cooling for the past 10 years. I'm still hoping to plant those palm trees in my back yard.

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    Re: 2001-2010 was the warmest decade since records began

    Quote Originally Posted by Homer. View Post
    A new study by the WMO (World Meteorological Organisation) shows the planet "experienced unprecedented high-impact climate extremes" in the ten years from 2001 to 2010, the warmest decade since the start of modern measurements in 1850.
    Unfortunately, this isn't true. The weather is no more volatile than it has been over the last 100 years or so:

    In terms of cyclone energy http://policlimate.com/tropical/global_running_ace.png
    Or cyclone frequency http://policlimate.com/tropical/frequency_12months.png
    Or hurricane frequency http://policlimate.com/tropical/global_major_freq.png
    Or frequency of strong tornadoes in the US http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/c...im/EF3-EF5.png
    Or world wide precipitation: http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/ima...on-figure2.gif
    Or days with or without precipitation in the US: http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/c...-step5.ytd.gif
    And so on.

    I have no doubt that there are a few indices of severe weather that have gone up, but I question whether this is typical of the recent climate overall.

    Those ten years also continued an extended period of accelerating global warming, with more national temperature records reported broken than in any previous decade. Sea levels rose about twice as fast as the trend in the last century.
    Yes, you'd expect that if we are actually in the middle of a warming trend, which we are, assuming that warming picks up again after this hiatus that has been going on for ~15 years now. The issues in question, though, are what is causing the warming and what can be done about it. As to the latter issue the answer is most likely "nothing".

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    Re: 2001-2010 was the warmest decade since records began

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Sure I did. Regional weather isn't global warming, much less the algae growth in the pond in your back yard. Your pond is a run-off destination for water that falls far from the pond itself. Your algae growth could be the result of excess fertilizer in a neighbors yard, or neighboring farm or any of a legion of local causes that have little to do with even local temperature, let alone global climate.
    Since is only occuring in the last few years, your theory is all wet.
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    Re: 2001-2010 was the warmest decade since records began

    Quote Originally Posted by Carleen View Post
    Since is only occuring in the last few years, your theory is all wet.

    How does that impact my assumption? Fertilizer amounts and types used in the area surrounding your pond can not have changed in the last few years? What is the temperature trend for your area for the last several years?

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