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    McCain Calls Morsi Ouster a Coup, Urges Blocking Aid

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    Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) called the ouster of Egyptian President Mohammed Morsi a coup d’etat and pressed the Obama administration to suspend aid to the country on Sunday.

    "It was a coup and it was the second time in two and a half years that we have seen the military step in," McCain said on CBS's "Face the Nation."
    Well, yes it was a coup, and yes, it was anti-democratic. But it was still the right thing to do.

    Democracy cannot be allowed to become a suicide pact.

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    Re: McCain Calls Morsi Ouster a Coup, Urges Blocking Aid

    Morsi was elected by the people of Egypt whether you like it or not. They elected him leader you may not like him but Egypt does.

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    Re: McCain Calls Morsi Ouster a Coup, Urges Blocking Aid

    I would support suspending aid until the military resigns power and the rule of law restored (figuratively speaking). I wouldn't, however, advise withholding aid indefinitely and subsequently losing influence with a very important player in the ME.

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    Re: McCain Calls Morsi Ouster a Coup, Urges Blocking Aid

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    Morsi was elected by the people of Egypt whether you like it or not. They elected him leader you may not like him but Egypt does.
    Actually, no - from what I've seen, Egypt doesn't like him - or more importantly, Egypt doesn't like the way he disbanded parliament, also democratically elected, and they don't like the way he and the Muslim Brotherhood hijacked the new constitution project, freezing out all other parties and moving towards sharia law.

    When a democratically elected government stops acting democratically, then often that democratically elected government is stopped by the people.

    The military did not take over - they simply acted as a referee. They saw the people rising up again and they decided to step in to avoid a return to chaos. What you have now, basically, is a restart back at the time when Mubarak was overthrown. They have a chance to get it right now.

    As an aside, in my view, many of the first world countries should be encouraging a new beginning for Egypt and rather than just military aid, we should be looking at propping up Egypt's economy, helping them move forward and provide jobs and meaningful lives to this country that is disproportionately young in comparison to our populations in the west. And Egypt is really the most important country in a fragmented and volatile middle east region and we need to see it succeed more than any other country there.
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    Re: McCain Calls Morsi Ouster a Coup, Urges Blocking Aid

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Actually, no - from what I've seen, Egypt doesn't like him - or more importantly, Egypt doesn't like the way he disbanded parliament, also democratically elected, and they don't like the way he and the Muslim Brotherhood hijacked the new constitution project, freezing out all other parties and moving towards sharia law.

    When a democratically elected government stops acting democratically, then often that democratically elected government is stopped by the people.

    The military did not take over - they simply acted as a referee. They saw the people rising up again and they decided to step in to avoid a return to chaos. What you have now, basically, is a restart back at the time when Mubarak was overthrown. They have a chance to get it right now.

    As an aside, in my view, many of the first world countries should be encouraging a new beginning for Egypt and rather than just military aid, we should be looking at propping up Egypt's economy, helping them move forward and provide jobs and meaningful lives to this country that is disproportionately young in comparison to our populations in the west. And Egypt is really the most important country in a fragmented and volatile middle east region and we need to see it succeed more than any other country there.
    Good evening, CJ!

    Very well said!

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    Re: McCain Calls Morsi Ouster a Coup, Urges Blocking Aid

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Good evening, CJ!

    Very well said!
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    Re: McCain Calls Morsi Ouster a Coup, Urges Blocking Aid

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
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    Well, yes it was a coup, and yes, it was anti-democratic. But it was still the right thing to do.

    Democracy cannot be allowed to become a suicide pact.
    Democracy cannot exist in a theocracy where the real power is not in the hands of those elected. You can't call repeated hits on the reset button of a nation's leadership by the military (or any other power group) a democracy. These mock elections, by ignoranty masses, that result in installing corrupt dictators that begin by enacting complete system rule changes (up to and including rewriting the constitution) will never remain a democratic gov't.
    “The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: McCain Calls Morsi Ouster a Coup, Urges Blocking Aid

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Good evening Lady P - hope all is well with you, and thanks.
    All is well with me,

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    Re: McCain Calls Morsi Ouster a Coup, Urges Blocking Aid

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    All is well with me,

    I had a chance to swim with and play with the bottleneck dolphins at South Padre Island! Magnificent animals! The pod leader jumped out of the water and gave me a kiss! I swear he was laughing at my shock, but that's the way they look all the time, I guess...smiling!
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    Re: McCain Calls Morsi Ouster a Coup, Urges Blocking Aid

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    Morsi was elected by the people of Egypt whether you like it or not. They elected him leader you may not like him but Egypt does.
    No they don't. Maybe at first, but they clearly changed their minds when they saw him turning into Mubarak all over again.


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