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    Re: FOX News Reporting Boeing 777 Crashes In San Francisco

    Quote Originally Posted by PerfectStorm View Post
    Was it true that this flight was initially supposed to land on a different runway? Could the height of runway A be lower than the height of runway B and some pilot adjustment need to be made?
    I think they are parallel runways there 28-Left and 28-Right so I doubt that would be an issue either. A foot wouldn't make a bit of difference. It isn't that high tech. You fly until your wheels touch the ground. Some of my airline pilot buddies on FB seem to think the flight crew just tried to touch down too soon and got caught in the rip-wrap

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    Re: FOX News Reporting Boeing 777 Crashes In San Francisco

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    That's what I heard. Amazing that it's only two.
    plane crashes are unpredictable and there are a number of factors that contribute to the severity of a emergency and the chances of surviving.

    for example a plane can lose 1 or multiple engines, like the plane that safely landed on the Hudson river back in 2008-2009, and everyone survives.

    and then there are cases like jal 123, the deadliest single plane disaster of all time.

    Japan Airlines Flight 123 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: FOX News Reporting Boeing 777 Crashes In San Francisco

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    I think they are parallel runways there 28-Left and 28-Right so I doubt that would be an issue either. A foot wouldn't make a bit of difference. It isn't that high tech. You fly until your wheels touch the ground. Some of my airline pilot buddies on FB seem to think the flight crew just tried to touch down too soon and got caught in the rip-wrap
    Oh OK...I was thinking of a landing on a North/South runway versus an East/West runway.
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    Re: FOX News Reporting Boeing 777 Crashes In San Francisco

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post


    Just when you think you've heard it all.....
    Just when you think that conservatives would actually grow enough noodle to know that their government can't be trusted.

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    Re: FOX News Reporting Boeing 777 Crashes In San Francisco

    Quote Originally Posted by PerfectStorm View Post
    Oh OK...I was thinking of a landing on a North/South runway versus an East/West runway.
    They run arrivals out of the 28's and departures out of the 1's usually. From what I can google around, they were landing on the shorter 28L which would be more consistent with them trying to hit the leading edge sooner.

    One of the stories I found interesting that reaffirms my current theory is:

    "Kristina Stapchuck saw the dramatic scene unfold from her seat on a plane on the airport tarmac. Soon after Flight 214 touched down, "it looked like the tires slipped a little bit and it rocked back," she told CNN.

    Parts of the plane began to break off as it rocked and then began to spin.

    "It all happened so suddenly," Stapchuck told CNN.


    Boeing 777 crash lands at San Francisco International Airport - CNN.com


    Doesn't sound like the tail became involved until after whatever happened was already happening.

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    Re: FOX News Reporting Boeing 777 Crashes In San Francisco

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    They run arrivals out of the 28's and departures out of the 1's usually. From what I can google around, they were landing on the shorter 28L which would be more consistent with them trying to hit the leading edge sooner.

    One of the stories I found interesting that reaffirms my current theory is:

    "Kristina Stapchuck saw the dramatic scene unfold from her seat on a plane on the airport tarmac. Soon after Flight 214 touched down, "it looked like the tires slipped a little bit and it rocked back," she told CNN.

    Parts of the plane began to break off as it rocked and then began to spin.

    "It all happened so suddenly," Stapchuck told CNN.


    Boeing 777 crash lands at San Francisco International Airport - CNN.com


    Doesn't sound like the tail became involved until after whatever happened was already happening.
    I don't know about that. The debris field sure looked like the tail hit right about the edge of the water and may have actually hit the water first. It looks to my untrained eye that the pilot simply landed short.

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    Re: FOX News Reporting Boeing 777 Crashes In San Francisco

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    I don't know about that. The debris field sure looked like the tail hit right about the edge of the water and may have actually hit the water first. It looks to my untrained eye that the pilot simply landed short.
    Well that is my current theory you are taking exception to

    I have never flown anything close to that big, but I suppose in theory they could also have touched down nose gear first and just slammed it into the ground. Novice pilots have been known to do that in small general aviation aircraft and it rips the nose gear right off the plane.

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    Re: FOX News Reporting Boeing 777 Crashes In San Francisco

    Could we assume that the pilot realizing he was too low tried to correct the altitude which would have caused the tail to become lower than the landing gear and to clip the rock wall?

    Here comes the NTSB briefing......
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    Re: FOX News Reporting Boeing 777 Crashes In San Francisco

    Well that briefing was a big help..../sarc
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    Re: FOX News Reporting Boeing 777 Crashes In San Francisco

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Tails don't just fall off. I hate to jump to conclusions about terrorism but.....
    Oh Jeez...terrorists? I am sick of this semi-paranoia...no offense.

    I highly doubt terrorists would blow off it's tail on landing.

    They would obviously do it at 30,000 feet to guarantee no one survived.


    'Stephanie Turner saw the plane going down and the rescue slides deploy, but returned to her hotel room before seeing any passengers get off the jet, she told ABC News. Turner said when she first saw the flight she noticed right away that the angle of its approach seemed strange.

    "It didn't manage to straighten out before hitting the runway," she said. "So the tail of the plane hit the runway, and it cartwheeled and spun and the tail broke off ... I mean we were sure that we had just seen a lot of people die. It was awful.

    "And it looked like the plane had completely broken apart," she said. "There were flames and smoke just billowing."

    Kate Belding was out jogging just before 11:30 a.m. on a path the water from the airport when she noticed the plane approaching the runway in a way that "just didn't look like it was coming in quite right."


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    When a plane hits the ground hard, and the tail hits first - it's probably going to rip off.
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