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    Re: FOX News Reporting Boeing 777 Crashes In San Francisco

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Probably more likely the landing gear is what got tangled up in the rocks since at least one of them is ripped completely off and laying on the around the runway numbers. They would have to have that nose up pretty high to drag the tail me would think.

    But on landing isn't the tail lower than the landing gear?
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    Re: FOX News Reporting Boeing 777 Crashes In San Francisco

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    It's not a cargo plane.

    A crash that occurs after touchdown typically isn't a total loss. Fewer troubles with Newton. The fueselage appears to be mostly intact, so that's a good sign.

    As for a tail falling off, a bad impact could snap the tail loose. I'm guessing the tail came off during impact, not during flight. If the tail comes off in flight, things don't go this well. The 777 tail is mostly composites. They're tough and light, but as I understand it when they do fail, they tend to fail rather spectacularly.
    if the tail came off in flight there is no possible way it would be able to land unless it was on the glide path seconds before landing

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    Re: FOX News Reporting Boeing 777 Crashes In San Francisco

    Quote Originally Posted by PerfectStorm View Post
    But on landing isn't the tail lower than the landing gear?
    Not when you are touching down. Sounds like the 777 crash at Heathrow except it was caused by ice crystals.

    Based on the tower tape it sounds like a routine landing until the crash since they had a plane coming in on its rear so this will be pilot error either way.

    http://soberbuildengineer-com.s3.ama...KSFO-Crash.mp3

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    Re: FOX News Reporting Boeing 777 Crashes In San Francisco



    Everyone survived, walked off. Apparently it skidded out of control landing.

    Update, 4:12 p.m.: According to two LA Times reporters and one Fox reporter, there were no fatalities among the 291 passengers and 12 crew. (That's an updated number, for the record.) One person was critically injured and airlifted to a local hospital but, for the most part, everyone seems OK. We'll have updated injury reports when the numbers are confirmed.

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    Re: FOX News Reporting Boeing 777 Crashes In San Francisco

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I hate flying!
    for me its not the flying, its getting through the airport and dealing with that many self serving people..

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    Re: FOX News Reporting Boeing 777 Crashes In San Francisco

    Last entry here shows he was too low.....

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    Re: FOX News Reporting Boeing 777 Crashes In San Francisco

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    The runway 28 approach is over freaking water.

    edit: oh, that little thing at the edge of the water? It's not very tall...
    It doesn't have to be very tall. The angles rear bottom of a 7X7 series plane is because that part comes very close to the ground.

    It wouldn't be the first 777 to hit it's tail on landing.

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    Re: FOX News Reporting Boeing 777 Crashes In San Francisco

    Quote Originally Posted by PerfectStorm View Post
    Last entry here shows he was too low.....

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    Could the altimeter have been messed up, I wonder?

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    Re: FOX News Reporting Boeing 777 Crashes In San Francisco

    Fox says 2 fatalities...48 injured.
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    Re: FOX News Reporting Boeing 777 Crashes In San Francisco

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Right you are. It clearly didn't flip. It better be a cargo plane, though, because the passenger compartment looks like it's toast.

    How the HELL does a plane's TAIL fall off? WTF?
    a bad approach can cause a tail strike and if the impact is strong enough it can break the tail off, as exemplified in this case.

    but a regular tail strike that is not repaired properly can cause disaster at some point in the future, like when china airlines flight 611 broke apart midflight because of a fatigue crack in the tail section.

    China Airlines Flight 611 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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