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    Re: Activists call for Capital One to drop Alec Baldwin over homophobic tweets

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    There's a problem with what you are saying here though, her popularity and book sales increased after the controversy was released.
    Her popularity did not increase, it is just some racists decided to give her money and even the publisher decided that was too sleazy for them. It is pretty bad when money grubbing publishers say no way. It is the same reason why people sent money to zimmerman despite not even knowing him, and that people went to the chik-fil-a anti-gay weekend. It doesn't calculate into permanent sales as her sponsors have figured out.
    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    If it was about affecting her sale quality, then they screwed up because her ability to sale went up a lot after her deposition was released. It didn't go down, nor were there really a lot of people calling for her to be fired.

    Paula Deen's Book Sales Increase Following N-Word Controversy - The Hollywood Reporter
    Again, temporary popularity due to hatred is not an increase in audience. Not to mention some of those sponsors had a brand that certainly was not going to benefit from a single book sale with no advertisements. What is in it for Walmart or Target when the only thing she can sell is her last book? Considering it would probably be her last book it may have been a bunch of collectors looking to cash in on the last bit of deen memorabilia. There will be another bigot next week or month for people to back, and they know it. Paula does not have any staying power. hell, she was only 4th biggest TV chef which is not much of an accomplishment considering they are not huge stars to begin with. Being the latest nigger guy/girl is not a marketable position, just ask Micheal Richards. Hey, maybe faux news will want to give her a racist cooking show? I am sure they could market her. She could be there with Mark Fuhrman. Hell, for nigger guy mark it was probably a step up from LAPD to guy who occasionally gets to speak on fix noise. It wont get her any of her sponsors back, but at least she can get paid and be one with her prejudiced audience.

    Sorry dude, but temporary popularity due to BS is fickle and people move on very quickly. Without her TV show and her spots on store shelves she is just some wrinkly old nigger woman with a restaurant somewhere. She better find a publisher quick because that wave of bigot popularity will quickly crash and wash away anything she has left.

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    Re: Activists call for Capital One to drop Alec Baldwin over homophobic tweets

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Because Baldwin went immediately to GLAAD and apologized and explained exactly like I said, he made the comment out of anger and it was directed toward a single person out of anger, not out of homophobia or hate toward a group.
    Bwahahaha!!!

    Yeah...how exactly do you 'apologize' for that? I mean...I know it is routine for a lot of folks on this site to attack conservative posters with the most vile insinuation they can muster...suggesting homosexual ideation and tendencies...but we arent talking about a guy that was angry, irate and let 1 word slip out. This was a verbal vomit from guy entirely comfortable with using the slurs, indicating it isnt the first time...just the first time he was stupid enough to send it out into the twittersphere. Its not unlike his 30 Rock costar Tracy Morgan and his regular use of anti gay rhetoric...right up until someone filmed it. The nit was...ooooopsie. Sorry! My bad!

    Meh...I dont really care about this. I dont use Capital One, 30 Rock was played out after the second season, and I think people ought to develop a bit of a thicker skin when it comes to being buttuirt over 'insults'.

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    Re: Activists call for Capital One to drop Alec Baldwin over homophobic tweets

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    Read more: Activists call for Capital One to drop Alec Baldwin over homophobic tweets | Fox News

    so tell me liberals how is it that Paula Deen has her career decimated for something she said 30 years ago, but Baldwin gets a pass for saying something much worse. he just didn't use a homophobic slur he threatened violence against the gay reporter that is a hate crime at least it would be if a conservative did so. the hypocrisy never seams to end with the left
    For the millionth time, it's not over something she said 30 years ago. Do a little research on this.

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    Re: Activists call for Capital One to drop Alec Baldwin over homophobic tweets

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    There's a problem with what you are saying here though, her popularity and book sales increased after the controversy was released. If it was about affecting her sale quality, then they screwed up because her ability to sale went up a lot after her deposition was released. It didn't go down, nor were there really a lot of people calling for her to be fired.

    Paula Deen's Book Sales Increase Following N-Word Controversy - The Hollywood Reporter
    Doesn't really matter how much her book sales went up, because her publisher dumped her.

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    Re: Activists call for Capital One to drop Alec Baldwin over homophobic tweets

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    Read more: Activists call for Capital One to drop Alec Baldwin over homophobic tweets | Fox News

    so tell me liberals how is it that Paula Deen has her career decimated for something she said 30 years ago, but Baldwin gets a pass for saying something much worse. he just didn't use a homophobic slur he threatened violence against the gay reporter that is a hate crime at least it would be if a conservative did so. the hypocrisy never seams to end with the left
    He has no career, and what he said wasn't worse.

    Also Dean was fired for making a hostil work environment not something she said. 30 years ago. Also she said it in 2007.

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    Re: Activists call for Capital One to drop Alec Baldwin over homophobic tweets

    Quote Originally Posted by Van Basten View Post
    Alec's tweets are getting blown out of proportion.
    Is that what he told you?

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    Re: Activists call for Capital One to drop Alec Baldwin over homophobic tweets

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    ...- in my world -...
    In my experience, “to be fair” is most often used to indicate recognition that some part of an opposing view may possibly be valid, then explaining why you think it is not. For example’ “To be fair, it’s possible that Ms. Dean was merely trying to enhance the theme by including Blacks playing slave roles during the party, BUT/HOWEVER/STILL….”

    Your use of the phrase (something I’ve seen from time to time), is a naked appeal to our sense of fair play; for us to understand and agree with your position simply because it’s the “right thing to do.” In logic, that is an appeal to emotion.

    In reality, how is it “fair” for us to simply agree when we clearly see things differently from you? You might think it is self-evidently “fair,” but we think it is a “crock.” Hence, grounds for my use of the term “emotional exception” in my first reply. I am willing to concede that it should have said "emotional appeal" but the forum kicked me before I could edit it.

    Sorry for the double post. I would have explained this in my last reply but the Forum’s system problems prevented it.

    (Duece, I haven't been able to get to Rocket88's Fox citation either yet, I keep getting kicked as I try to find it.)
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    Re: Activists call for Capital One to drop Alec Baldwin over homophobic tweets

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    First off, according to your own article Alec is not getting a pass. Being the rightie stooge you are you might want to look at your own idealogy for why anti-gay sentiments are not taken as seriously as racist ones as it would be the right who keeps insisting homophobia is an acceptable prejudice. Finally, I am pretty sure the reporter wasn't gay. At any rate, Alec did not threaten the reporter because he was gay, he threatened him because he went way overboard. This is not to mention the fact Alec has participated in pro-gay programs before. So his remarks are insensitive but not representative of his actions.

    Oh, and thank you for the feigned concern. We know how big of a pro-gay rights to be beaten and left for dead tied to a fence person you are. As a member of the community we appreciate your concern in this matter and we will get right on that for you as i am sure that it truly bothers you greatly that gays were subject to collateral insult damage from Alec's comments. Oh, and no you still cannot use nigger as a term for black people unless you want to offend people. We all know where your motivations truly lie, and it seems a tad sneaky and deceptive to play this silly game just so you might have a chance of one day being openly racist again.
    Would you apply this same logic to the Zimmerman case

    He mentored black youth so he couldn't posible have stalked and killed Martin because he was black, like is so often reported.

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    Re: Activists call for Capital One to drop Alec Baldwin over homophobic tweets

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Is that what he told you?
    They are not homophobic rants, honestly, they're barely straight up rants.
    "We have more responsibility than power, I think. The newspaper can create great controversies, stir up arguments within the community or discussion, can throw light on injustices....just as it can do the opposite. It can hide things and be a great power for evil." -- Rupert Murdoch, 1968

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    Re: Activists call for Capital One to drop Alec Baldwin over homophobic tweets

    Quote Originally Posted by Van Basten View Post
    They are not homophobic rants, honestly, they're barely straight up rants.
    Well you referred to him as Alec, like he was one of your friends.

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