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    Re: Activists call for Capital One to drop Alec Baldwin over homophobic tweets

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    I can't consider wanting black people to play slaves as they serve you to simply be "bad judgment." While I can't say for certain that she is a racist, I certainly believe that such behavior could be an indicator of racism. A woman her age from the South is certainly aware of what slavery was and all the implications around it. Therefore, this is not just a case of "bad judgment." That explanation might suffice for a child, but Paula Deen is an adult. I mean, would you consider it "bad judgment" if a German adult wanted to reenact the Holocaust or if a white person wanted to reenact the Trail of Tears? Probably not. Slavery is no different.

    As far as people just taking the word of the woman, I don't think that's the case. Most people seem to be going by the transcripts that have Paula Deen's own words on them.
    I just disagree. Maybe it is from the viewpoint that I have known a lot of older Southern people who truly do not believe that they are doing something wrong when they talk about the past in a way that could be viewed by others, and normally is, as offensive. Even younger Southerners sometimes talk about "the South will rise again" or display the Confederate flag, but to many of them this isn't a statement that they think black people are less than white people or even that they approve of slavery. For many, it is part of their heritage, that they may not approve of all aspects of, but to them it is still important. And adults can make bad judgements that are not based on hate or even prejudice but just them not thinking things completely through.

    As for the Holocaust and Trail of Tears things, there is a difference. She isn't trying to reenact something where people were treated horribly as the main event. She was trying to have a themed wedding. Slavery wasn't itself being reenacted. And it wasn't being used to glorify slavery. Plus, it would be wrong to have a German 1940s wedding/party theme that included guests/staff with stars or other identifying emblems on them, but it would be still be a case of bad judgement in most cases, unless some other evidence comes up to state otherwise.

    I think that most of the backlash came from the media information, which is still not enough. Look, even you went immediately to the "separate bathrooms" thing, despite that not being proven or supported as true by anyone else so far.

    I just don't support firing someone just because they have done/said things in their past. They are free to do it, but it doesn't change my view on it. And I feel it is especially wrong to do it when we look at how many others have been treated with so much less animosity for doing things that should have been a hell of a lot worse. It appears more like "jumping on the bandwagon", than sticking with principles.

    On a side note to this, I found it interesting that I can still buy her products at the NEX. I saw them just this past week.
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    Re: Activists call for Capital One to drop Alec Baldwin over homophobic tweets

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    with Baldwin's history of violence against reporters i would take it serious. he threatened violence twice once by saying i will f___ you up and i will but a foot up your ass

    did Rush, Deen or Imus get a pass? neither of them made a threat of violence and Rush and Imus was making a joke. just a text book example of the lefts selective outrage and media bias
    This proves that you are apparently set on your own selective outrage and bias because you seem to have missed my comments about Deen. I don't like either Imus or Rush, but I also don't support prosecution of them for anything I know of them saying. You are the one who is showing your selective outrage and bias here.
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    Re: Activists call for Capital One to drop Alec Baldwin over homophobic tweets

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I just disagree. Maybe it is from the viewpoint that I have known a lot of older Southern people who truly do not believe that they are doing something wrong when they talk about the past in a way that could be viewed by others, and normally is, as offensive. Even younger Southerners sometimes talk about "the South will rise again" or display the Confederate flag, but to many of them this isn't a statement that they think black people are less than white people or even that they approve of slavery. For many, it is part of their heritage, that they may not approve of all aspects of, but to them it is still important. And adults can make bad judgements that are not based on hate or even prejudice but just them not thinking things completely through.

    As for the Holocaust and Trail of Tears things, there is a difference. She isn't trying to reenact something where people were treated horribly as the main event. She was trying to have a themed wedding. Slavery wasn't itself being reenacted. And it wasn't being used to glorify slavery. Plus, it would be wrong to have a German 1940s wedding/party theme that included guests/staff with stars or other identifying emblems on them, but it would be still be a case of bad judgement in most cases, unless some other evidence comes up to state otherwise.

    I think that most of the backlash came from the media information, which is still not enough. Look, even you went immediately to the "separate bathrooms" thing, despite that not being proven or supported as true by anyone else so far.

    I just don't support firing someone just because they have done/said things in their past. They are free to do it, but it doesn't change my view on it. And I feel it is especially wrong to do it when we look at how many others have been treated with so much less animosity for doing things that should have been a hell of a lot worse. It appears more like "jumping on the bandwagon", than sticking with principles.

    On a side note to this, I found it interesting that I can still buy her products at the NEX. I saw them just this past week.
    It has nothing to do with sticking to principles. That's why we see Paula Deen's career going to down the toilet over anecdotal evidence of saying something offensive three decades ago and extreme indifference, even defense of a United States congressman referring to a justice of the Surpreme court as an Uncle Tom.

    It all stems from a sub-culture in this country where some discrimination is evil and some discrimination is acceptable, even encouraged.
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    Re: Activists call for Capital One to drop Alec Baldwin over homophobic tweets

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    This proves that you are apparently set on your own selective outrage and bias because you seem to have missed my comments about Deen. I don't like either Imus or Rush, but I also don't support prosecution of them for anything I know of them saying. You are the one who is showing your selective outrage and bias here.


    nope. just pointing out the never ending hypocrisy of the left and the blatant media bias

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    Re: Activists call for Capital One to drop Alec Baldwin over homophobic tweets

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    Read more: Activists call for Capital One to drop Alec Baldwin over homophobic tweets | Fox News

    so tell me liberals how is it that Paula Deen has her career decimated for something she said 30 years ago, but Baldwin gets a pass for saying something much worse. he just didn't use a homophobic slur he threatened violence against the gay reporter that is a hate crime at least it would be if a conservative did so. the hypocrisy never seams to end with the left
    Deen's career wasn't destroyed for what she said 30 years ago. It was the work environment. God only knows why people have focused so intently on her choice of slurs rather than the overwhelming inappropriateness of the workplace.

    Should Baldwin lose support? Sure.
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    Re: Activists call for Capital One to drop Alec Baldwin over homophobic tweets

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTrumps View Post
    The President thought held the same views up until 5 minutes ago, so I guess you didn't vote for him either. Not to mention Clinton who signed DOMA. Are you looking at the people pulling your leash?
    I vote libertarian. It's a party that doesn't discriminate.
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    Re: Activists call for Capital One to drop Alec Baldwin over homophobic tweets

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    I vote libertarian. It's a party that doesn't discriminate.
    yeah, its a win-win situation, because you have to defend nothing your party does(since your party holds no real power) and you can attack all sides without being called to question. perfect way to skate through these proceedings. Unfortunately, those of us who's parties have a say in making law and policy have to pick a side and defend it.

    congrats

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    Re: Activists call for Capital One to drop Alec Baldwin over homophobic tweets

    This victim card thread delivers the lulz.
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    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Activists call for Capital One to drop Alec Baldwin over homophobic tweets

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTrumps View Post
    yeah, its a win-win situation, because you have to defend nothing your party does(since your party holds no real power) and you can attack all sides without being called to question. perfect way to skate through these proceedings. Unfortunately, those of us who's parties have a say in making law and policy have to pick a side and defend it.

    congrats
    If you want to openly support gay bashing, that's your decision.

    I vote for exactly what I believe in. If more people did that instead of "picking the lesser evil", we'd have a libertarian party. Your two parties have a 10% approval rate, yet you continue to vote for them because they're the "lesser evil". Then you want to talk smack to me? Ridiculous.
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    I've got to say that it is shadenfreudalicious to see the rich and famous fucquewads on the coast suffering from the fires.

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    Re: Activists call for Capital One to drop Alec Baldwin over homophobic tweets

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    This victim card thread delivers the lulz.
    Lol, I thoroughly enjoyed it.

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