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    Violence Erupts in Egypt

    http://edition.cnn.com/2013/07/05/wo...html?hpt=hp_t1

    Violence erupted here Friday as supporters of Mohamed Morsy turned out en masse, calling for his restoration to the presidency two days after his ouster in a military coup.
    Five Morsy supporters were shot dead by the army in front of the headquarters of the Republican Guard headquarters, where the ousted president was reported to be detained, the Muslim Brotherhood's political wing -- the Freedom and Justice Party -- said Friday night.

    What a mockery of the Democratic process. First, there is a coup of the first democratically elected leader Egypt. Then two days later, after claiming the person that they ousted from power was oppressive and bad for the Egyptian people, they go and gun down people that oppose them. Extremely hypocritical of them, what are the chances the next leader is not going to oppress the people too? Obviously it is ok to kill political enemies. The Obama Administration needs to make a point that no matter how bad the leader is (Morsy) coups are not condoned. Take for example this: Obama's ratings are down and he is certainly not the savoir the Country envisioned, let's just have the military go in, take him out of power then shoot anybody that disagrees. We are sending the message that this is acceptable behavior if we don't stop the aid to the new Egyptian government. My disappointment with the Obama Administration has hit an all time high. It is astonishing that people fighting oppression are okay with killing opposition. What a messed up world.
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    Re: Violence Erupts in Egypt

    Well, it's certainly gonna be interesting how many presidents they go through this year.

    EDIT: It's possible to become MORE disappointed with the Obama administration? News to me :P

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    Re: Violence Erupts in Egypt

    Quote Originally Posted by Morrigi View Post
    Well, it's certainly gonna be interesting how many presidents they go through this year.

    EDIT: It's possible to become MORE disappointed with the Obama administration? News to me :P
    Fair enough on the Obama point.
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    Re: Violence Erupts in Egypt

    These people aren't mature enough for democracy.
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    Re: Violence Erupts in Egypt

    I gotta wonder how many Republicans are going to become pro-Morsi soon, or should I say:

    Obama was wrong to support the protests that lead to the elections that resulted in Morsi because he's a Muslim Brotherhood member, which is bad, however he should support keeping Morsi in power because he was elected democratically in an election we didn't support and even though he's a bad guy.

    Or something...

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    Re: Violence Erupts in Egypt

    Democracy is great, but the people wanted Morsi's Muslim Brotherhood in power even less than they wanted Mubarak.

    Unfortunately for Morsi (and fortunately for everyone else) he had all the patience of a teenage boy on prom night and just took it too fast. Morsi is done in by his premature theocratization.

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    Re: Violence Erupts in Egypt

    The problem is now that you've basically divided the country into two factions that now hate each other to the core, those whom supported Morsi and all the other groups who didn't.

    Even if the military retains order, which will be harder and harder the more people are killed, and manages to conduct new elections, its going to be hard for those elections to be seen as legitmate by the people. After all the only reason they'll have these new elections is because they threw out the last elected guy, and I wouldn't blame Morsi supporters or the Muslim Brotherhood from feeling cheated out of its electorcal victory and basically pushed out of the electoral process. All this is not good for a democracy to function.

    Of course Morsi was an stupid leader as well, he did not respect the complaints of his opposition, threw out the Constitution numerous times, was more interested in Islamic reforms that actually problem solving like the jobless rate, and he silenced and repressed his opponents. The man and the Muslim Brotherhood clearly did not understand what it meant to run a democracy, and now they've paid for it but even more importantly the people have paid for it.

    Now a great gap has been created in their society, and damned if I know how its going to be healed so everyone is satisfied with their electoral system, the violence and turmoil can stop, and Egypt can get back to addressing the numerous problems it faces.

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    Re: Violence Erupts in Egypt

    Morsi gained power by promising many things and failed to deliver. He was a puppet and sadly I feel the show is just starting
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    Re: Violence Erupts in Egypt

    Surprise, surprise.
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    Re: Violence Erupts in Egypt

    Well lets not forget the Morsi supporters going out and shooting people too. Or beating them up. The Egyptian Military told them they wouldn't put up with it.

    Moreover all the MB was doing and is doing is using Democracy.....to get them into power so they can set up what they have always wanted.

    Again to think that the MB stands for Democracy is a joke. Maybe they should pull back all of their people they have spread over the ME and the US to go back and help their brothers out. This way we can try and get them all in one place. Then solve the problem.

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