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U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

winston53660 said:
What's your "answer" to it? Put something forth for once.
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I have wasted enough time posting information here that you ignore. Do some research and you will even find the answer in this thread among others. For someone who follows me around like a little puppy you should get someone to help you with comprehension on what I post?
 
Gimmesometruth said:
Well...what is it? Can you objectively show a change in value?
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Sure can but will let you good little Obama supporters find out the big surprise all by yourself. You don't believe anything posted by a conservative anyway.
 
Conservative said:
What is the value of your dollar going to be when that debt has to be funded by printing or borrowing money?
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I don't know, the Fed has been purchasing an average of $45 billion of treasuries since November 2012 while, as you pointed out, the treasury has issued around $5 trillion in net debt since 2008.

What does the data tell us about inflation?

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Conservative said:
How are things in your liberal dream world? When was the last time you looked at the U.S. Budget? It is the fourth largest budget item
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So you keep saying....yawn. The fact is, it is 6% of the budget....double yawn.

Wash rinse repeat.....over and over...
 
Conservative said:
I have wasted enough time posting information here that you ignore. Do some research and you will even find the answer in this thread among others. For someone who follows me around like a little puppy you should get someone to help you with comprehension on what I post?
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Well I certainly have been schooled by conservatives non-sequiturs yet again!:lamo:roll:
 
Kushinator said:
I don't know, the Fed has been purchasing an average of $45 billion of treasuries since November 2012 while, as you pointed out, the treasury has issued around $5 trillion in net debt since 2008.

What does the data tell us about inflation?

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It tells me Obama has a vested interest in a stagnant economy with slow economic growth. Put 21 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers back to work with 4% GDP growth and see what happens?
 
Conservative said:
Sure can but will let you good little Obama supporters find out the big surprise all by yourself. You don't believe anything posted by a conservative anyway.
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Well hon, it would be reflected in inflation....or exchange rates.....so how are those going?

You inflation chicken littles have not much to show for a long time.

Wash rinse repeat...over and over.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
So you keep saying....yawn. The fact is, it is 6% of the budget....double yawn.

Wash rinse repeat.....over and over...
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Here are the line items on the budget which obviously is foreign to you just like everything else with you, you don't have a clue. SS and Medicare are supposed to self funding and not an expense to the taxpayer thus aren't counted as being an on budget expense.

2010 Budget

Defense 680.4
International Affairs 47.2
Gen. Science, Space 29.2
Energy 14.8
Natural resources/env 41.8
Agriculture 19.7
Commerce/Housing Cr 40.3
Transportation 91.2
Community Dev 26.1
Education/Train/Social 89.1
Health 346.7
Medicare 471.8
Income Security 542.1
Social Security 773.3
Veterans Benefits 124.6
Justice 57.6
General Govt. 23.4
Net Interest 222.5
 
Conservative said:
It tells me Obama has a vested interest in a stagnant economy with slow economic growth. Put 21 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers back to work with 4% GDP growth and see what happens?
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And when that happens, the fed can cut back on QE.

You ignore inflation is not spiking from QE, you ignore that the fed can and will cut QE when the economy starts to get back up to speed.

Wash rinse repeat....
 
Conservative said:
It tells me Obama has a vested interest in a stagnant economy with slow economic growth. Put 21 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers back to work with 4% GDP growth and see what happens?
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It has nothing to do with Obama; your nonsense about monetary and fiscal policy will not cut it!

Nominal GDP growth rate since 2008.

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Gimmesometruth said:
And when that happens, the fed can cut back on QE.

You ignore inflation is not spiking from QE, you ignore that the fed can and will cut QE when the economy starts to get back up to speed.

Wash rinse repeat....
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Another subject you know little about QE by the Federal. Those toxic assets aren't going away. Wonder if that lightbulb is every going to go off.
 
Conservative said:
Here are the line items on the budget which obviously is foreign to you just like everything else with you, you don't have a clue. SS and Medicare are supposed to self funding and not an expense to the taxpayer thus aren't counted as being an on budget expense.

2010 Budget
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Actually, the interest payment paid was 196 in 2010, and was 5.6% of spending. Yawn.
 
Conservative said:
Another subject you know little about QE by the Federal. Those toxic assets aren't going away. Wonder if that lightbulb is every going to go off.
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LOL...US bonds....are sooooo toxic.....that the world can't get enough of them.

YAWN.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
Actually, the interest payment paid was 196 in 2010, and was 5.6% of spending. Yawn.
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Fourth largest budget item and growing. The debt wasn't 16.8 trillion in 2010 either. Do liberals ever admit when they are wrong?
 
Kushinator said:
It has nothing to do with Obama; your nonsense about monetary and fiscal policy will not cut it!

Nominal GDP growth rate since 2008.

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Isn't it amazing that we have such good economic growth that there are still over 21 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers and Obama with an approval rating approaching 40%. The disconnect seems to be between your textbook smarts and real world economics.
 
Conservative said:
Isn't it amazing that we have such good economic growth that there are still over 21 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers and Obama with an approval rating approaching 40%.
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Your strawman is weak; i never said we have such good economic growth. Are you capable of addressing the statements you chose to respond to? Nominal economic growth was greater than 4% since the recovery commenced.

The disconnect seems to be between your textbook smarts and real world economics.
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If not Obama, attack those for having a deeper understanding of political economy by embracing anti-intellectualism. The classic "conservative" play card.
 
Kushinator said:
Your strawman is weak; i never said we have such good economic growth. Are you capable of addressing the statements you chose to respond to?



If not Obama, attack those for having a deeper understanding of political economy by embracing anti-intellectualism. The classic "conservative" play card.
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You posted a chart showing GDP growth over 3%, that is what I was responding to. You seem to have a disconnect between your perception and actual personal economic numbers including unemployment/under employment/discouraged workers
 
Conservative said:
Fourth largest budget item and growing. The debt wasn't 16.8 trillion in 2010 either. Do liberals ever admit when they are wrong?
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This is a typical post from you, you create an arbitrary list while ignoring the what the actual amount is in comparison to the whole. You focus on aggregate instead of percentage, your views always avoid perspective.
 
Conservative said:
You posted a chart showing GDP growth over 3%, that is what I was responding to.
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Nominal GDP growth was higher than 3%. This is simply a matter of fact.

You seem to have a disconnect between your numbers and actual personal economic numbers including unemployment/under employment/discouraged workers
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Nope! I understand the data, which you clearly do not!
 
Kushinator said:
Nominal GDP growth was higher than 3%. This is simply a matter of fact.



Nope! I understand the data, which you clearly do not!
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Then apparently the 55-58% of the public that isn't supporting OBama doesn't understand it either because people always vote their pocketbooks not your textbooks
 
Kushinator said:
Are you saying that i am wrong? Perhaps you should understand the difference between real and nominal economic growth.
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Perhaps you should spend more time getting your nose out of the books and getting out there seeing the real world.
 
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