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U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

winston53660 said:
It is exactly what you do conservative. The subject is US adds 195k jobs and you do a complete run around on that.
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I have addressed the 195,000 number in almost every post here showing that is part of the story and not worthy of liberal victory laps especially when you break that number down and see where the numbers come from
 
Gimmesometruth said:
LOL!!!

FFS....the ideas of supply and demand in an resource rich area just elude you.
You would think that people entering into a discussion on economics would have just the basics of information and understanding....but I guess not.
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You really need to get out more, that is the free market working without govt. intervention. Not surprising you lack the understanding of how to affect supply and demand. I assure you if you want supply you don't let the govt. do it.
 
Conservative said:
OIL..
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North Dakota is the only state that has oil? Interesting? How much oil is off the coast of Oregon, Washington, and California? Guess you will never know.[/QUOTE]
Thats because there's something much better than dirty oil rich. Our coast is beautiful and we want it to stay that way.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
Oh it would be WONDERFUL if EVERY STATE had the same POPULATION DENSITY and OIL FIELDS A PLENTY.....!!!

Then we could all live like OPEC states!

It must be the fault of liberals that we don't have those reserves in every county of every state......darn them!
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with fracking, oil sands and the pipe line a dozen or more states can have that same type of boom if the government would just get out of the way
Still you haven't explained how a McDonalds worker in N.Dakota makes 16 dollars an hour they are not connected to the oil industries, could it be the result of trickle down?
 
AlabamaPaul said:
Why would you want to live like an OPEC state? The point is that we, as a nation, have the ability to become energy independent if the government would just get out of the way...
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That wasn't his point, stop trying to cover for him. And it is funny that you ask why become a high oil output country.....and then say we should.

Look, the oil corps have let leases go unused while demand has been low.....and this admin has signed off on record numbers of leases. Fracking has lowered the costs and caused existing wells to continue to output without the need to drill new holes...hence the unused leases.

Your posts are confused as usual.
 
trfjr said:
with fracking, oil sands and the pipe line a dozen or more states can have that same type of boom if the government would just get out of the way
Still you haven't explained how a McDonalds worker in N.Dakota makes 16 dollars an hour they are not connected to the oil industries, could it be the result of trickle down?
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I told you, it is a matter of supply and demand in an area with lots of investment.

You don't see the fallacy of your posts, this is why I don't waste my time on you.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
That wasn't his point, stop trying to cover for him. And it is funny that you ask why become a high oil output country.....and then say we should.

Look, the oil corps have let leases go unused while demand has been low.....and this admin has signed off on record numbers of leases. Fracking has lowered the costs and caused existing wells to continue to output without the need to drill new holes...hence the unused leases.

Your posts are confused as usual.
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There's a huge difference between the government selling leases and approving drilling permits. Fracking is being mostly done on private and state lands, not federal...
 
pbrauer said:
North Dakota is the only state that has oil? Interesting? How much oil is off the coast of Oregon, Washington, and California? Guess you will never know.
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Thats because there's something much better than dirty oil rich. Our coast is beautiful and we want it to stay that way
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Aw yes, Conservatives want to pollute the air, kill seniors, and starve kids too. Guess the people of N. Dakota want pollution whereas the people of Oregon don't.
 
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randel said:
i'm asking you to clarify your posistion, as you seem to be throwing all your effort into denying this number. as for the rest, meant to derail the conversation.
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I have clarified my position throughout this thread now either prove I said it was a lie or apologize
 
trfjr said:
so evil oil and its greedy corporations got unemployment down to 3%
now explain how a McDonalds worker in N Dakota makes 16 dollars an hour they are not connect to the oil industry the state didn't raise the minimum wage
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The labor zxdemand from the oil industry forces to wages to go up. Now that not hard to figure out, was it?
 
winston53660 said:
It is exactly what you do conservative. The subject is US adds 195k jobs and you do a complete run around on that.
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What's the big deal ... looks like some people are content with "coulda been worse" and other people are disappointed knowing it "coulda been better".
(btw, in case you were wondering, you appear to be the former)
 
Conservative said:
You really need to get out more, that is the free market working without govt. intervention. Not surprising you lack the understanding of how to affect supply and demand. I assure you if you want supply you don't let the govt. do it.
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Moronic posting at its finest, I never said it wasn't S/D, the point is that it is not as if everyone has an oil field in their backyard with low numbers of available workers. You just cannot fathom that we have the exact opposite issue, millions of workers all around the US without the jobs. We can't all move to ND nor can we all be lucky enough to have a valuable resource in our backyard.

You guys are operating on a fantasy and won't come back to the real world.
 
AlabamaPaul said:
There's a huge difference between the government selling leases and approving drilling permits. Fracking is being mostly done on private and state lands, not federal...
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Drilling permits are at record levels, you don't have a point....as usual.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
I told you, it is a matter of supply and demand in an area with lots of investment.

You don't see the fallacy of your posts, this is why I don't waste my time on you.
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Investments? like investments made by all those greedy rich people? so having a low capitol gains tax is a good thing to give an incentive to invest
 
pbrauer said:
The labor zxdemand from the oil industry forces to wages to go up. Now that not hard to figure out, was it?
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so trickle down does work. so all the money that the greedy rich and the oil industries used to invest in the oil production in N.Dakota trickled down to the McDonalds workers so he can make 16 dollars an hour
 
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trfjr said:
so trickle down does work
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Erm, no, this doesn't really support that idea at all. Rather, an increase on demand without a corresponding increase in supply causes prices to go up. In this case, it was the demand for labor.

"Trickle down" is a more complicated discussion and you'll need to present more data if you want to show it works.
 
trfjr said:
so trickle down does work. so all the money that the greedy rich and the oil industries used to invest in the oil production in N.Dakota trickled down to the McDonalds workers so he can make 16 dollars an hour
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FFS...trickle down is a reference to lower TAX rates causing the wealthy to spend marginally more....whereas you are trying to apply it to international oil corps finding fields and creating an oil boom economic condition in a small population area.

It is not the same thing, and it has nothing to do with the topic of QE and its relation to employment.
 
Conservative said:
I have clarified my position throughout this thread now either prove I said it was a lie or apologize
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you will get no apology from me, as i asked you if this was your posistion, read for comprehension my friend, read for comprehension.
 
Deuce said:
Erm, no, this doesn't really support that idea at all. Rather, an increase on demand without a corresponding increase in supply causes prices to go up. In this case, it was the demand for labor.

"Trickle down" is a more complicated discussion and you'll need to present more data if you want to show it works.
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if it wasn't for the money that the greedy rich and oil companies used to invest in the oil production in N.Dakots there would not have been a boom there for there wouldn't be McDonalds workers making 16 dollars an hour. you can have all the resources you want but if you don't have the capitol to remove and or use those resources they are worthless
 
trfjr said:
so evil oil and its greedy corporations got unemployment down to 3%
now explain how a McDonalds worker in N Dakota makes 16 dollars an hour they are not connect to the oil industry the state didn't raise the minimum wage
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Hard work had nothing to do with it. For some unexplained as yet reason, the Pelosi/Obama Food Stamp Stimulus program took effect in North Dakota first. Not to worry. In two or three days the rest of our nation will get the same results as North Dakota. The government paved the way for all the success that is happening there.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
FFS...trickle down is a reference to lower TAX rates causing the wealthy to spend marginally more....whereas you are trying to apply it to international oil corps finding fields and creating an oil boom economic condition in a small population area.

It is not the same thing, and it has nothing to do with the topic of QE and its relation to employment.
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its not spending it is investments like investments that oil companies used to find and extract oil that caused the oil boom in Dakota which caused the McDonald worker to make 16 dollars an hours
 
trfjr said:
if it wasn't for the money that the greedy rich and oil companies used to invest in the oil production in N.Dakots there would not have been a boom there for there wouldn't be McDonalds workers making 16 dollars an hour. you can have all the resources you want but if you don't have the capitol to remove and or use those resources they are worthless
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This stupid, there is no lack of capital in the US, there is plenty of investment funds in the US, corporations are cash rich and interest rates are at record lows.

Even with all of this AND QE, we still do not have corporations making investment in employment.....because demand is still depressed.

Capital IS NOT THE ISSUE.
 
trfjr said:
if it wasn't for the money that the greedy rich and oil companies used to invest in the oil production in N.Dakots there would not have been a boom there for there wouldn't be McDonalds workers making 16 dollars an hour. you can have all the resources you want but if you don't have the capitol to remove and or use those resources they are worthless
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Thats not at all true, the oil companies will exploit any area if you let them.
 
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