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U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

Let me know when we get back to the pre recession month of November 2007. Think that a million people dropping out of looking for jobs is going to help? You really don't understand that a discouraged worker really does exist even though they aren't being counted.
the number is 195,000, the topic is jobs created, is your argument that the 195,000 number is a lie, that the government lied when they released this number?
 
I am blaming the lack of effective job programs on the GOP and the reich wing within it.



its not the governments responsibility to create jobs is is the government responsibility to get out of the way and let the free market create jobs if you want to live where it is the governments duty to do so you can move to Cuba or N.Koria

I will like to ask you a question sense you think you have the answer to job creation. explain why does N. Dakota has their unemployment rate at 3% and a McDonalds worker makes over 16 dollars an hour almost twice the minimum wage? was it because of the government or the free market? why is it that a McDonalds worker makes over 16 dollars an hour did N.Dakota raise the minimum wage to 16 an hour?
so you can live by your theories on paper that has been proven don't work time and time again or you can go with what has been proven to work through out history

this is the problem with people who think they know economics they go to collages that are run by the socialist left. they teach their sheep that go how great socialism is. they teach their socialist theories and ignore history that has proven what works and that is free market capitalism

you are better off learning economics from a community collage class run by some retired businessman he has real word experience what works and what doesn't
 
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the number is 195,000, the topic is jobs created, is your argument that the 195,000 number is a lie, that the government lied when they released this number?

Were there more full-time or part-time jobs at the end of June?
 
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Yay, the got a rebate check that once it was spent it was gone. My Bush and Reagan Tax cuts continued with every paycheck. Apparently you don't understand the difference here either. Wonder which one benefited the consumer more?
There you go, during those times when the economy was going pretty good, you got a tax cut....and the debt tripled and doubled respectively....and yet all you can do now is call for more cuts AND whine about debt......while you blame individuals for not getting jobs....when there are not enough jobs to go around..

You are the typical reich winger that wants to line the pockets of the super rich who care nothing for you.

Weirdness.





Numbers that only matter to people who actually care about the unemployed. you apparently don't
No, you have made it clear time and again that YOU don't care about the unemployed, you don't want jobs programs, you won't hire the long term unemployed, you believe they should be punished.



Maybe one of these days you will learn where investment income comes from just like spending income
The wealthy have plenty of investment income, they have been swallowing up ALL of the wealth gains for a very long time.

Those that spend their incomes have cut back dramatically because they are not getting that share any longer.





No, you stated that most of the 100% of job losses occurred during the Bush fiscal year but the Bush term ended in January 2009.
And yet you just differentiated the Presidential term and the associated fiscal term.....without making any point.


How many months of 2010-2011-2012 did Obama have a million people discouraged and not counted as unemployed?
Ah, you are confused about non farm EMPLOYMENT (what I am talking about) and unemployment. You are confusing who is responsible for those job losses. I still find it so weird how you would not hire the long term unemployed....yet you continue to use them in your arguments. It is so hypocritical.




Net increase in employment with over a million no longer counted. That is like putting your finger to plug a pint sized leak
I just find it amazing how you continue to conflate two different stats.





Of course you do which is why you lack any credibility.
How does that work? You praise the GOP for not creating any effective jobs programs, we are commenting on the same thing....yet when I point out they are not creating effective jobs programs, I somehow lose credibility?

You just shot yourself in the foot.
 
the number is 195,000, the topic is jobs created, is your argument that the 195,000 number is a lie, that the government lied when they released this number?

Please post the quote where I said that 195,000 is a lie? Why don't you get some of your other Obama supporters to help you since you all look very foolish
 
its not the governments responsibility to create lobs is is the government responsibility to get out of the way and let the free market create jobs if you want to live where it is the governments duty to do so you can move to Cuba or N.Koria

I will like to ask you a question sense you think you have the answer to job creation. explain why does N. Dakota has their unemployment rate at 3% and a McDonalds worker makes over 16 dollars an hour almost twice the minimum wage? was it because of the government or the free market? why is it that a McDonalds worker makes over 16 dollars an hour did N.Dakota raise the minimum wage to 16 an hour?
so you can live by your theories on paper that has been proven don't work time and time again or you can go with what has been proven to work through out history

this is the problem with people who think they know economics they go to collages that are run by the socialist left. they teach their sheep that go how great socialism is. they teach their socialist theories and ignore history that has proven what works and that is free market capitalism

you are better off learning economics from a community collage class run by some retired businessman he has real word experience what works and what doesn't

Well done, Gimme doesn't respond well to actual data and facts that contradict the leftwing rhetoric and desire for greater liberal dependence.
 
Please post the quote where I said that 195,000 is a lie? Why don't you get some of your other Obama supporters to help you since you all look very foolish
i'm asking you to clarify your posistion, as you seem to be throwing all your effort into denying this number. as for the rest, meant to derail the conversation.
 
Well done, Gimme doesn't respond well to actual data and facts that contradict the leftwing rhetoric and desire for greater liberal dependence.

they are so vested in socialist theories they spent thousands of dollars at some left wing run university that they cant admit all that money went to waste and they was taught a lie
 
Business expenses affect corporate profits not personal income taxes on personal income. Just another thing you don't understand like budgets and actual spending bills.
I did not say they did, you just once again posted a non-sequitur.



So what benefit is there to increasing taxes on anyone? Sounds to me like you are jealous of what someone else makes. That explains a lot about supporters of Obamanomics
This is coming from a guy who constantly whines about the deficit!





Do you have any idea what funds roads? Hint, not personal income taxes.
Um, actually, some of it does.




Wow, you really have bought the Obama line hook, line, and sinker. Apparently that hasn't resonated with the American people who support the pipeline.

Americans back Keystone pipeline in new poll[/QUOTE]Is this an appeal to ignorance? Yes it is.
 
Well done, Gimme doesn't respond well to actual data and facts that contradict the leftwing rhetoric and desire for greater liberal dependence.

When presented with actual data and facts con attempts to change the subject.
 
its not the governments responsibility to create lobs is is the government responsibility to get out of the way and let the free market create jobs if you want to live where it is the governments duty to do so you can move to Cuba or N.Koria

I will like to ask you a question sense you think you have the answer to job creation. explain why does N. Dakota has their unemployment rate at 3% and a McDonalds worker makes over 16 dollars an hour almost twice the minimum wage? was it because of the government or the free market? why is it that a McDonalds worker makes over 16 dollars an hour did N.Dakota raise the minimum wage to 16 an hour?
so you can live by your theories on paper that has been proven don't work time and time again or you can go with what has been proven to work through out history

this is the problem with people who think they know economics they go to collages that are run by the socialist left. they teach their sheep that go
chow great socialism is. they teach their socialist theories and ignore history that has proven what works and that is free market capitalism

you are better off learning economics from a community collage class run by some retired businessman he has real word experience what works and what doesn't

Yeah we get, there's oil boom in North Dakota.:roll:
 
"Bush wasn't in office in 2010-2011-2012 when job losses were actually worse "'

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You keep showing more and more areas that you don't understand. where are the unemployed shown on this graph?
You were talking about (non existent) "job losses", you going to make up your mind?
 
I did not say they did, you just once again posted a non-sequitur.



This is coming from a guy who constantly whines about the deficit!





Um, actually, some of it does.






Americans back Keystone pipeline in new poll
Is this an appeal to ignorance? Yes it is.[/QUOTE]

why wont you answer my question why cant you explain how N. Dakota has their unemployment down to 3% and how a McDonalds worker makes 16 dollars an hour explain how government made that happen
 
QUOTE=Gimmesometruth;1062023288]There you go, during those times when the economy was going pretty good, you got a tax cut....and the debt tripled and doubled respectively....and yet all you can do now is call for more cuts AND whine about debt......while you blame individuals for not getting jobs....when there are not enough jobs to go around..

So the business you own is dependent on govt. grants and taxpayer funds? Wonder if your math skills will help you with the question does the taxpayer get hurt more by the 1.7 trillion Reagan added to the debt or the 6 trillion Obama has added to the debt? You getting any of that debt service today?

You are the typical reich winger that wants to line the pockets of the super rich who care nothing for you.

Your opinion noted although this looks more like a personal attack from someone who doesn't understand how the private sector works. How did any rich person make you poorer? How does taking money from those people help you?


No, you have made it clear time and again that YOU don't care about the unemployed, you don't want jobs programs, you won't hire the long term unemployed, you believe they should be punished.

Chronic unemployed, you bet, those that are under employed I care a lot about because they aren't taking money from the taxpayer in the form of unemployment compensation. You think govt. funding for job creation is long term? Another program you know very little about

The wealthy have plenty of investment income, they have been swallowing up ALL of the wealth gains for a very long time.

Your opinion noted and I have seen no evidence of your experience to decide what the majority of the wealthy do with their income. Please site that experience? Just another question that you won't answer

Those that spend their incomes have cut back dramatically because they are not getting that share any longer.

Their share of what? You think you are entitled to a share of what someone else earns? Yep, you are an Obama supporter. Obama cares so much about the unemployed that he keeps watching people drop out of the job market so they are no longer counted

And yet you just differentiated the Presidential term and the associated fiscal term.....without making any point.

I distinguish rightly between a budget and appropriation bills. You don't seem to be able to grasp the difference. The U.S. Govt. has a fiscal year, the President doesn't, he has an elected term.


Ah, you are confused about non farm EMPLOYMENT (what I am talking about) and unemployment. You are confusing who is responsible for those job losses. I still find it so weird how you would not hire the long term unemployed....yet you continue to use them in your arguments. It is so hypocritical.

Great, then educate me, Bush had 146 million working Americans in December 2007, you show 131 million, explain the difference? Cannot wait to hear this one.

I just find it amazing how you continue to conflate two different stats.

You see that is your problem, your priorities are screwed up, rather than learn how BLS destroys your argument you are amazed and a perceived difference between stats.

How does that work? You praise the GOP for not creating any effective jobs programs, we are commenting on the same thing....yet when I point out they are not creating effective jobs programs, I somehow lose credibility?

As has been stated it isn't the government's role to create effective job programs other than providing the incentive for the private sector to create jobs. GOP promotes the private sector whereas the Democrats promote govt. spending to create jobs. Wonder who picks up the tab for those jobs when the funding stops?

You just shot yourself in the foot
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I see no evidence of that but I do see the evidence that your wound if fatal.
 
Yeah we get, there's oil boom in North Dakota.:roll:
so evil oil and its greedy corporations got unemployment down to 3%
now explain how a McDonalds worker in N Dakota makes 16 dollars an hour they are not connect to the oil industry the state didn't raise the minimum wage
 
I will like to ask you a question sense you think you have the answer to job creation. explain why does N. Dakota has their unemployment rate at 3% and a McDonalds worker makes over 16 dollars an hour almost twice the minimum wage? was it because of the government or the free market? why is it that a McDonalds worker makes over 16 dollars an hour did N.Dakota raise the minimum wage to 16 an hour?
so you can live by your theories on paper that has been proven don't work time and time again or you can go with what has been proven to work through out history
Oh it would be WONDERFUL if EVERY STATE had the same POPULATION DENSITY and OIL FIELDS A PLENTY.....!!!

Then we could all live like OPEC states!

It must be the fault of liberals that we don't have those reserves in every county of every state......darn them!
 
When presented with actual data and facts con attempts to change the subject.

AW, look, the baiter, troll is back along with all his friends, none of which seem to any concept of how the economy works.
 
Is this an appeal to ignorance? Yes it is.

why wont you answer my question why cant you explain how N. Dakota has their unemployment down to 3% and how a McDonalds worker makes 16 dollars an hour explain how government made that happen[/QUOTE]


OIL..
 
Oh it would be WONDERFUL if EVERY STATE had the same POPULATION DENSITY and OIL FIELDS A PLENTY.....!!!

Then we could all live like OPEC states!

It must be the fault of liberals that we don't have those reserves in every county of every state......darn them!

So that is why McDonald's employees make double the minimum wage? Maybe "your" President ought to promote energy development in other states as well and offshore
 
Oh it would be WONDERFUL if EVERY STATE had the same POPULATION DENSITY and OIL FIELDS A PLENTY.....!!!

Then we could all live like OPEC states!

It must be the fault of liberals that we don't have those reserves in every county of every state......darn them!

Why would you want to live like an OPEC state? The point is that we, as a nation, have the ability to become energy independent if the government would just get out of the way...
 
why wont you answer my question why cant you explain how N. Dakota has their unemployment down to 3% and how a McDonalds worker makes 16 dollars an hour explain how government made that happen


OIL..[/QUOTE]

North Dakota is the only state that has oil? Interesting? How much oil is off the coast of Oregon, Washington, and California? Guess you will never know.
 
so evil oil and its greedy corporations got unemployment down to 3%
now explain how a McDonalds worker makes 16 dollars an hour they are not connect to the oil industry
LOL!!!

FFS....the ideas of supply and demand in an resource rich area just elude you.
You would think that people entering into a discussion on economics would have just the basics of information and understanding....but I guess not.
 
AW, look, the baiter, troll is back along with all his friends, none of which seem to any concept of how the economy works.

It is exactly what you do conservative. The subject is US adds 195k jobs and you do a complete run around on that.
 
so evil oil and its greedy corporations got unemployment down to 3%
now explain how a McDonalds worker in N Dakota makes 16 dollars an hour they are not connect to the oil industry the state didn't raise the minimum wage

I see a lot of liberal heads exploding.
 
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