the number is 195,000, the topic is jobs created, is your argument that the 195,000 number is a lie, that the government lied when they released this number?Let me know when we get back to the pre recession month of November 2007. Think that a million people dropping out of looking for jobs is going to help? You really don't understand that a discouraged worker really does exist even though they aren't being counted.
I am blaming the lack of effective job programs on the GOP and the reich wing within it.
the number is 195,000, the topic is jobs created, is your argument that the 195,000 number is a lie, that the government lied when they released this number?
There you go, during those times when the economy was going pretty good, you got a tax cut....and the debt tripled and doubled respectively....and yet all you can do now is call for more cuts AND whine about debt......while you blame individuals for not getting jobs....when there are not enough jobs to go around...
Yay, the got a rebate check that once it was spent it was gone. My Bush and Reagan Tax cuts continued with every paycheck. Apparently you don't understand the difference here either. Wonder which one benefited the consumer more?
No, you have made it clear time and again that YOU don't care about the unemployed, you don't want jobs programs, you won't hire the long term unemployed, you believe they should be punished.Numbers that only matter to people who actually care about the unemployed. you apparently don't
The wealthy have plenty of investment income, they have been swallowing up ALL of the wealth gains for a very long time.Maybe one of these days you will learn where investment income comes from just like spending income
And yet you just differentiated the Presidential term and the associated fiscal term.....without making any point.No, you stated that most of the 100% of job losses occurred during the Bush fiscal year but the Bush term ended in January 2009.
Ah, you are confused about non farm EMPLOYMENT (what I am talking about) and unemployment. You are confusing who is responsible for those job losses. I still find it so weird how you would not hire the long term unemployed....yet you continue to use them in your arguments. It is so hypocritical.How many months of 2010-2011-2012 did Obama have a million people discouraged and not counted as unemployed?
I just find it amazing how you continue to conflate two different stats.Net increase in employment with over a million no longer counted. That is like putting your finger to plug a pint sized leak
How does that work? You praise the GOP for not creating any effective jobs programs, we are commenting on the same thing....yet when I point out they are not creating effective jobs programs, I somehow lose credibility?Of course you do which is why you lack any credibility.
the number is 195,000, the topic is jobs created, is your argument that the 195,000 number is a lie, that the government lied when they released this number?
its not the governments responsibility to create lobs is is the government responsibility to get out of the way and let the free market create jobs if you want to live where it is the governments duty to do so you can move to Cuba or N.Koria
I will like to ask you a question sense you think you have the answer to job creation. explain why does N. Dakota has their unemployment rate at 3% and a McDonalds worker makes over 16 dollars an hour almost twice the minimum wage? was it because of the government or the free market? why is it that a McDonalds worker makes over 16 dollars an hour did N.Dakota raise the minimum wage to 16 an hour?
so you can live by your theories on paper that has been proven don't work time and time again or you can go with what has been proven to work through out history
this is the problem with people who think they know economics they go to collages that are run by the socialist left. they teach their sheep that go how great socialism is. they teach their socialist theories and ignore history that has proven what works and that is free market capitalism
you are better off learning economics from a community collage class run by some retired businessman he has real word experience what works and what doesn't
i'm asking you to clarify your posistion, as you seem to be throwing all your effort into denying this number. as for the rest, meant to derail the conversation.Please post the quote where I said that 195,000 is a lie? Why don't you get some of your other Obama supporters to help you since you all look very foolish
Well done, Gimme doesn't respond well to actual data and facts that contradict the leftwing rhetoric and desire for greater liberal dependence.
I did not say they did, you just once again posted a non-sequitur.Business expenses affect corporate profits not personal income taxes on personal income. Just another thing you don't understand like budgets and actual spending bills.
This is coming from a guy who constantly whines about the deficit!So what benefit is there to increasing taxes on anyone? Sounds to me like you are jealous of what someone else makes. That explains a lot about supporters of Obamanomics
Um, actually, some of it does.Do you have any idea what funds roads? Hint, not personal income taxes.
Wow, you really have bought the Obama line hook, line, and sinker. Apparently that hasn't resonated with the American people who support the pipeline.
Well done, Gimme doesn't respond well to actual data and facts that contradict the leftwing rhetoric and desire for greater liberal dependence.
its not the governments responsibility to create lobs is is the government responsibility to get out of the way and let the free market create jobs if you want to live where it is the governments duty to do so you can move to Cuba or N.Koria
I will like to ask you a question sense you think you have the answer to job creation. explain why does N. Dakota has their unemployment rate at 3% and a McDonalds worker makes over 16 dollars an hour almost twice the minimum wage? was it because of the government or the free market? why is it that a McDonalds worker makes over 16 dollars an hour did N.Dakota raise the minimum wage to 16 an hour?
so you can live by your theories on paper that has been proven don't work time and time again or you can go with what has been proven to work through out history
this is the problem with people who think they know economics they go to collages that are run by the socialist left. they teach their sheep that go
chow great socialism is. they teach their socialist theories and ignore history that has proven what works and that is free market capitalism
you are better off learning economics from a community collage class run by some retired businessman he has real word experience what works and what doesn't
"Bush wasn't in office in 2010-2011-2012 when job losses were actually worse "'
You were talking about (non existent) "job losses", you going to make up your mind?You keep showing more and more areas that you don't understand. where are the unemployed shown on this graph?
Is this an appeal to ignorance? Yes it is.[/QUOTE]I did not say they did, you just once again posted a non-sequitur.
This is coming from a guy who constantly whines about the deficit!
Um, actually, some of it does.
Americans back Keystone pipeline in new poll
QUOTE=Gimmesometruth;1062023288]There you go, during those times when the economy was going pretty good, you got a tax cut....and the debt tripled and doubled respectively....and yet all you can do now is call for more cuts AND whine about debt......while you blame individuals for not getting jobs....when there are not enough jobs to go around..
You are the typical reich winger that wants to line the pockets of the super rich who care nothing for you.
No, you have made it clear time and again that YOU don't care about the unemployed, you don't want jobs programs, you won't hire the long term unemployed, you believe they should be punished.
The wealthy have plenty of investment income, they have been swallowing up ALL of the wealth gains for a very long time.
Those that spend their incomes have cut back dramatically because they are not getting that share any longer.
And yet you just differentiated the Presidential term and the associated fiscal term.....without making any point.
Ah, you are confused about non farm EMPLOYMENT (what I am talking about) and unemployment. You are confusing who is responsible for those job losses. I still find it so weird how you would not hire the long term unemployed....yet you continue to use them in your arguments. It is so hypocritical.
I just find it amazing how you continue to conflate two different stats.
How does that work? You praise the GOP for not creating any effective jobs programs, we are commenting on the same thing....yet when I point out they are not creating effective jobs programs, I somehow lose credibility?
.You just shot yourself in the foot
so evil oil and its greedy corporations got unemployment down to 3%Yeah we get, there's oil boom in North Dakota.:roll:
Oh it would be WONDERFUL if EVERY STATE had the same POPULATION DENSITY and OIL FIELDS A PLENTY.....!!!I will like to ask you a question sense you think you have the answer to job creation. explain why does N. Dakota has their unemployment rate at 3% and a McDonalds worker makes over 16 dollars an hour almost twice the minimum wage? was it because of the government or the free market? why is it that a McDonalds worker makes over 16 dollars an hour did N.Dakota raise the minimum wage to 16 an hour?
so you can live by your theories on paper that has been proven don't work time and time again or you can go with what has been proven to work through out history
When presented with actual data and facts con attempts to change the subject.
Is this an appeal to ignorance? Yes it is.
Oh it would be WONDERFUL if EVERY STATE had the same POPULATION DENSITY and OIL FIELDS A PLENTY.....!!!
Then we could all live like OPEC states!
It must be the fault of liberals that we don't have those reserves in every county of every state......darn them!
Oh it would be WONDERFUL if EVERY STATE had the same POPULATION DENSITY and OIL FIELDS A PLENTY.....!!!
Then we could all live like OPEC states!
It must be the fault of liberals that we don't have those reserves in every county of every state......darn them!
why wont you answer my question why cant you explain how N. Dakota has their unemployment down to 3% and how a McDonalds worker makes 16 dollars an hour explain how government made that happen
LOL!!!so evil oil and its greedy corporations got unemployment down to 3%
now explain how a McDonalds worker makes 16 dollars an hour they are not connect to the oil industry
AW, look, the baiter, troll is back along with all his friends, none of which seem to any concept of how the economy works.
so evil oil and its greedy corporations got unemployment down to 3%
now explain how a McDonalds worker in N Dakota makes 16 dollars an hour they are not connect to the oil industry the state didn't raise the minimum wage