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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Help whom? Aw, yes, those poor workers with absolutely nothing invested in their job other than their own time. Stop ignoring what you do when you get to keep more of what you earn.
    That attitude is exactly what I talking about. You clearly know little about how this works.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    There was. But you know the study, look it up. You've been given a lot, with next to nothing in rebuttal. At least try.
    No, there were no internals there at all. Post the internals and then tell me how it is a representative sample of the labor force to make your point.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The best I can do is to ignore you who are a waste of time with no solutions and being totally nave about leadership and the qualities and responsibilities of a leader.
    You mean you know you're wrong, but won't confess.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That attitude is exactly what I talking about. You clearly know little about how this works.
    Yes, unlike you who understands the business world and expects someone else to solve all your problems for you and if they don't you blame others rather than your own leaders

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Yes, unlike you who understands the business world and expects someone else to solve all your problems for you and if they don't you blame others rather than your own leaders
    I solve my problems. We're talking about country and nit me personally. I'm doing fine thank you.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I solve my problems. We're talking about country and nit me personally. I'm doing fine thank you.
    Oh, I forgot, you are so much smarter than everyone else thus are the only one that can solve their own problems without govt. bureaucratic help.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Oh, I forgot, you are so much smarter than everyone else thus are the only one that can solve their own problems without govt. bureaucratic help.
    Another strawman on your part. I didn't say that either. Do remember, you're the one wanting the president to save you.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    You said two years, I did not. You continue to make this about morality, ignoring that there 3 unemployed for every job. You don't want them to get UI, you don't want govt assistance for retraining, you think that deregulation will cure this.......sometime.
    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Many of the people not working today are not working because of the of the Bush tax cuts, especially those in the public sector. The tax rates established by President Clinton were working just fine.
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    one bad practice doesn't a bad employer make. i don't agree with not considering the long term unemployed. however, it's still possible that the employer treats its existing employees well. if one practice like that automatically makes an employer "bad," then there are probably no "good" employers.
    In my opinion the government figures on unemployment are seriously misleading. First, they claim there are no more than 11 million people they consider unemployed, then dismiss about 7.5 million as "not really trying," "marginally attached," and "disgusted" and Voila! We only have 3.5 million truly unemployed.

    Furthermore, the government creates a class of "not seeking work" containing over 80 million people, at least 40 million of which are able to work, old enough, and may actually be seeking work but have not been hired yet. This class is supposedly based on data garnered from some method of "asking," but they admit they don't ask everyone, and I don't know who they select to ask and how they go about doing it. The Census? A statistical "poll" sampling a few thousand people?

    Does this mean the people in this "class" are totally unwilling to seek work; that the next day they didn't go out to seek work? That if the reason for their current inaction disappears (i.e. the primary breadwinner loses his job or gets paid less, or they graduate from school, etc.) they will remain unlikely to seek work?

    I think government unemployment figures are pure propaganda with little relation to the reality of American unemployment.
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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Another strawman on your part. I didn't say that either. Do remember, you're the one wanting the president to save you.
    You don't understand good leadership at all, that is obvious. Enough of your silly games, the only solution you offered was making unions stronger. This seems to be a game for you and I am not in the mood to play it. How do strong unions make things better and who pays their costs?

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You don't understand good leadership at all, that is obvious. Enough of your silly games, the only solution you offered was making unions stronger. This seems to be a game for you and I am not in the mood to play it. How do strong unions make things better and who pays their costs?
    So what is your solution?

    And none of this ephemeral BS. Concrete proposals only as in A leads to B.

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