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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    So, if a Rep was in the WH and the jobs report showed only 2 new jobs created (which you said was a good report) - would you still call that a good report?

    Yes or no, please?
    That would depend upon what the trend was, if the date was dec 2008, it would be a fabulous report. If Romney was in the WH today, it would be a bad report for June. If Romney was in the WH today, I would say 195,000 is a good report.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    It is called being lazy which is another quality of liberalism
    Actually, I don't personally think it is a trait of liberalism.

    I think liberal ideals are good.

    Unfortunately, they are INCREDIBLY naive.

    So all that spending and giving money to everyone for nothing breeds laziness and/or attracts those that are lazy to the party.

    Even relatively decent people will sit around and do nothing if you pay them enough to do so with no seeming consequences.


    I think Paul Krugman (for example) is a very intelligent, decent man...he is just a complete ignoramus on macroeconomics in the real world...IMO.
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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    That would depend upon what the trend was, if the date was dec 2008, it would be a fabulous report. If Romney was in the WH today, it would be a bad report for June. If Romney was in the WH today, I would say 195,000 is a good report.
    2008? During a recession?

    That was five years ago...talk about apples and oranges.

    Why not compare it to 10 years ago? Or the Great Depression? Or 1865?


    So would you call this jobs report where 240,000 full times jobs were lost...a good report?

    Yes or no, please?

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    This is beyond stupid, the point wasn't buildings, it was jobs, EMPLOYMENT.
    You know, I find it interesting how often you incorporate perjoritive inflamatory words in your replies to me.

    Do you want me to report you, because I have no problem doing that?

    My statement was neither stupid, nor out of context.

    How could it be?

    It was simply a statement of fact. You're attempt to pervert it into something different is just your attempt to continue to attack without merit.

    I think you need to refrain from continuing to do this. I believe the TOS here are designed to keep people like you from attacking others.

    I'm sure the moderators would appreciate you trying to do that.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    I understand that you were searching for an escape for your position. It doesn't change the fact that your view of manufacturing declines in the US was inaccurate.
    I have nothing to escape from. Nothing I wrote was inaccurate.

    Please provide any evidence that my statement was inaccurate.

    Actually, don't. It seems you need to run in circles, and I'm not that interesting in watching you do that.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    So, if a Rep was in the WH and the jobs report showed only 2 new jobs created (which you said was a good report) - would you still call that a good report?

    Yes or no, please?
    Once more, you are asking a question I've already answered (again, in the post you quoted), and even if I were to answer again, you've already admitted this:

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    I doubt it.

    Why waste time reading posts from people you don't respect much?
    So please take your dishonesty someplace else. Thanks.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    How can economists be so pathetic as to look at the basic numbers of this report and not read the details?

    How can a job report with full time jobs lost, most of the new jobs are part-time and/or unskilled AND the U-6 rises 0.5% as anything but a negative?

    I mean the number of full time workers dropped by 240,000!?!

    Table A-9. Selected employment indicators.
    And what's the margin of error for that change and is it statistically significant?
    Therefore, since the world has still/Much good, but much less good than ill,
    And while the sun and moon endure/Luck's a chance, but trouble's sure,
    I'd face it as a wise man would,/And train for ill and not for good.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    I think Paul Krugman (for example) is a very intelligent, decent man...he is just a complete ignoramus on macroeconomics in the real world...IMO.
    While I agree, in his most recent article http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/08/op...own.html?_r=1& his ridiculous optimism is finally waning.

    He states, "Full recovery still looks a very long way off. And I’m beginning to worry that it may never happen."
    Haymarket's "support" of the 2nd Amendment, a right he believes we never had.
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    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Business produces things they hope they can sell. Demand is created all the time. If business only produced what they can sell, innovation wouldn't exist. That's the flaw with the current emphasis on demand. The never ending chicken/egg argument.

    Obviously, a company doesn't want dead inventory, but it happens. Many manufacturers sell products at a loss, so that other products they produce can be sold at a sufficient profit to benefit the entire enterprise.

    Think about it, the automobile was a gamble, as was the personal computer. Cells phones carried enormous risk, considering mobile phones had existed for some time prior to companies "betting the farm" with investments in cell towers and the rest of the required infrastructure.

    Capital sitting idle is the worst thing for a company, it must be put to work. But why are so many sitting on such big profits? The demand siders would suggest they need to pay their workers more, and hire a bunch of people so demand will pick up, and the economy will grow.

    With so much economic uncertainty, why would a company do that? Obamacare is real, and it's a major concern. Energy continues to be a variable that is a significant issue.

    At present, it takes @$300,000 in revenue to sucessfully cover the annual cost of an employee being paid $15+/hr. Do you know how much it costs to raise revenue by $300,000?

    Lot's of variables that charts, and theories, and statistics have a difficult time defining.

    Capital is sitting idle precisely because companies don't increase production in the hope that the market will expand. Businesses expand when they have a sufficient evidence that an expansion will increase profit. They don't just expand for the sake of expansion.

    Supply and demand combine to form an equilibrium. If supply increases but demand stays the same, then prices and profit fall. This disincentives any one producer from flooding the market with goods. If demand increases, but supply stays the same then prices increase forming a strong intensive for expansion.

    If you want to learn about why, read discussions on work by Von Neumann, Stackelberg, and Nash. You may find the math a bit tricky, but the concepts are fairly simple.

    The notion of "economic uncertainty" makes for convenient talking points, but it doesn't have much to do with reality. Companies aren't hoarding money because they're scared of some boogeyman. They're hoarding money because expansion will hurt their profits.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Once more, you are asking a question I've already answered (again, in the post you quoted), and even if I were to answer again, you've already admitted this:
    You made a general statement.

    Now I want to see if you will hold that for Reps as well as Dems?

    So I assume the answer is yes.

    So when a Rep is in the White House, if a jobs report comes out that has only 2 jobs (lol) created...you will call it a good report.

    Noted.



    Have a nice day.

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