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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Harry never brought the President's proposals to the Senate floor, and you want to blame the minority party? That's a bit of a stretch. The President could have and should have worked where he could find agreement with the minority which is energy independence. Unfortunately, the President doesn't seem to have that goal as a priority, and his own party would probably have skewered him if he attempted. So, you see, this one way blame just doesn't fly anymore...
    Actually, he didn't because he didn't have the votes to overcome the threatened Republican filibuster. But I'm OK with that. I am not in favor of the government throwing money at a problem.
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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

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    You continue to buy what you are told and even when the facts refute what you are told you continue to buy the rhetoric. Why is that? What is it about liberalism that creates this kind of loyalty?
    Because belief in Obama is a cult. If you look at all the Collectivist radical left wing movements in history, psychologically they are all cults. Nazism. Communism. Maoism. All cults. The psychological foundation of Collectivism as a movement is The Mob. Facts don't matter to Obama worshipers.

    If you look at all these supposed intellectuals and Godless utopias on the Left, they always replace belief in God with belief in Government. Obama hasn't ever governed as President. All he's been doing for the past 5 years is campaign. He's a figurehead. It's pure symbolism. His economic record is pure destruction and this is by design. His goal is not economic growth. His goal is the destruction of the US Economy. Remember, never let a crisis go to waste.

    Take Obamacare for example. It was never about HC. It's always been about destroying our current HC system so the Democrats can pick up the pieces and rebuild a new universal HC system. Obamacare's true intent is failure.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

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    Of course it does. The high users are already on Medicare. They make up the overwhelming majority of the cost. It's downhill after that. The math works.
    Sorry, but Medicare is barely paying its own way. Medicaid takes aproximately another $400B, currently unfunded, which is more than the Medicare revenue received each year. Now how are the medical costs funded for the remaining 225M citizens...
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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Actually, he didn't because he didn't have the votes to overcome the threatened Republican filibuster. But I'm OK with that. I am not in favor of the government throwing money at a problem.
    There would not have been a need to filibuster as there were not enough votes in his own party to pass the legislation as proposed. If there were, Harry would have brought it up just to demonize the opposition...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Um, the system had no cost containment strategies, they are being implemented and as the previously cited article shows, cost are now in line with the rest of the nation.

    Further, I have no idea why you keep blabbering about "govt growth", this is expanding PRIVATE INSURANCE.
    When you give something "free" there will never be cost containment. You ought to know that. So if costs are with the rest of the nation then why implement it so that you can see poorer service?

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Sorry, but Medicare is barely paying its own way. Medicaid takes aproximately another $400B, currently unfunded, which is more than the Medicare revenue received each year. Now how are the medical costs funded for the remaining 225M citizens...
    I've showed you how. The remaining are the least needy. So the the increase would fund it. It would be enough. But even if we went to 4.3%, it would till be a winner.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I've showed you how. The remaining are the least needy. So the the increase would fund it. It would be enough. But even if we went to 4.3%, it would till be a winner.
    It would need to be closer to 10% IMV...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    ToastyOats;1062027979]Nope, I gave the FY08-09 budget to Obama which does include the Recovery Act, the actual spending produced during that time. It was Bush's TARP and he did send us into Afghanistan, but I'm being nice today. So all that you mentioned goes to Obama, and you still get a much smaller budget increase compared to Reagan.
    When we have a budget this high why does it have to increase at all? Don't care about budget increases, care about the debt generated.


    Not liberalism, just base economic data from the CBO. Also, you've been the king of both soaring and and damning rhetoric throughout this thread, you have zero room to talk on the subject.
    Do you realize how accurate CBO is? CBO is charged by the Congress to take the assumptions given and develop a cost estimate. If the assumptions are wrong, the cost estimates are wrong. That happens with CBO a lot, assumptions are mostly always wrong, look at the Obamacare costs today vs when initially passed?



    Nice appeal to emotion, "ask the American people", ask that sad puppy and look into its wide shimmering eyes. :rolls
    The American people need to get the facts, not one side of the facts. People around today that were around during the Reagan years know what the economy was like when Reagan took office and know what happened during his term. That same feeling isn't happening today because Obama lacks basic leadership skills and expertise.

    And only 300,000 jobs a year? Huh, tell that to the ~600,000 jobs added in the last three months alone. If you're trying to refer to the averages counting the recession that began before Obama became president and hit its zenith just as he was walking into office, you are correct if you go by calendar year, you a net gain of 1.2 million jobs so far. By fiscal year however, when we actually got to start trying out "Obamanomics", it is closer to 5.7 million jobs or ~1.425 million per fiscal year. Guess it depends on which math you want to use I suppose.
    I gave you the average based upon employment numbers, that is terrible when you spend as much as Obama has spent to generate those numbers. Why do you buy what the left tells you when experience tells you that the projections are never right. Name for me an economic projection that Obama has made that has been accurate?


    Still, better than the last guy. Bush scored an increase of 1.13 million jobs over 8 years by calendar years, or -1.79 million by fiscal years. Giving Bush the math Republicans would prefer, we get an average net increase of 94,000 jobs a year. Carter did a better job on that front lol.
    The numbers regarding Bush aren't what you reported and I have posted those numbers here. Most of the job losses that hurt his numbers came with a Democrat controlled Congress more interested in regaining the WH than doing their job. I am a pro growth private sector individual and that is the exact opposite of Obama and liberalism today. I grew up a JFK Democrat but this party is no where near the party of JFK, it is the leftwing party, the European model party, the massive central govt. party

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I've showed you how. The remaining are the least needy. So the the increase would fund it. It would be enough. But even if we went to 4.3%, it would till be a winner.
    How exactly do you know that? sounds to me like an opinion. Name for me any govt. run program that cost what it was supposed to cost and name for me an Obama economic projection that has been accurate?

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    How exactly do you know that? sounds to me like an opinion. Name for me any govt. run program that cost what it was supposed to cost and name for me an Obama economic projection that has been accurate?
    Most have done more than called upon to do. And doing more often costs more.

    But I linked how.

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