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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

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    It will expand the U.S. economy and business climate by freeing up family income to purchase new products and services.

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    Okay, how much does it cost everyone. I've seen the platitudes; I'm just haven't seen who will be required to pay what...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Okay, how much does it cost everyone. I've seen the platitudes; I'm just haven't seen who will be required to pay what...
    You don't see 3.3% increase in taxes?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It was built on republican ideas, so what did you expect?

    But it does improve access, so at least you're getting more for your money.
    I'm not getting any more than I had before except higher premiums for our employees...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    I don't think I made a claim about time period.

    Please dispute the accuracy of my statement. Your post has no relevance.
    You said "since FDR", which would include 2000 to now. Manufacturing employment numbers remained fairly steady until 2000. Your statement was inaccurate as shown in the graph.
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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    I'm not getting any more than I had before except higher premiums for our employees...
    As a country we are. Greater access. My insurance the lowest increase in years. Before Obama was elected, we had the largest increase in our history and lost much in coverage. That damned Obama.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    Ahhhhh yes, but there's a difference between what's good on the micro and what's good on the macro. Individual companies prosper when they get the most productivity for the least money. Economies are most successful when consumption is just under what can possibly be produced.

    If wages exceed productivity, you end up with stagflation. That's because demand overtakes supply, driving costs up without the proper mechanisms for investment and growth. This happened in the 70's. If wages lag productivity, you end up with our economy.
    I'm sorry, but I can't agree with your premise. How would you suggest managing consumption so that it could be just under what can possibly be produced?

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You don't see 3.3% increase in taxes?
    3.3% tax on wages would bring in roughly double the amount currently collected for medicare and would need to cover 7-8 times the population. The math simply doesn't work...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Dishonest debate topped with ad hominems....the conservative way.
    See post #615

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    You said "since FDR", which would include 2000 to now. Manufacturing employment numbers remained fairly steady until 2000. Your statement was inaccurate as shown in the graph.
    To be factual, I didn't "say" anything, I wrote the following:

    The fact is, tens of thousands of factories have disappeared since FDR was President. It's undeniable.

    Please indicate to me how the above statement is inaccurate.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Cost containment has actually begun....and the ACA is not even in effect.

    Besides, I already told you that those who get their primary care with ER services will get them from personal Dr's. Those costs will decline.
    Bold predictions, with no facts (liks?) to back them up. That did not happen with RomneyCare in MA, ER use did not decline, instead it increased.

    Romneycare: More ER Crowding, Longer Doctor Wait Times - Forbes

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    Massachusetts Reports Continued Rise in Emergency Room Usage | Heartlander Magazine

    Massachusetts Health Stats: ER Use Up under RomneyCare; Romney Predicted Drop
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