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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post



    Last time I checked, 1973 was 40 years ago, and GM had a 44% market share. Also, the infamous Jobs Bank the UAW forced on GM hadn't been started yet.

    I don't think you want to go here again Truth...
    The discussion was of the time period when GM lost it's greatest share of the market, you have shifted the goal posts, along with ignoring the subsidization the imports always had and our lack of protecting our industries. You did this before, you do it now, I expect you to continue. You refuse to learn anything.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Actually, I think the world started before Reagan. The fact is, tens of thousands of factories have disappeared since FDR was President. It's undeniable.
    Actually, the greatest amount of US manufacturing job declines began under W, while productivity has risen and wages have stagnated/declined.

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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Health care costs in the country are estimated to be approximately 1/6 of the US economy or about $2.4T/year. That would be a lot of taxes...
    It's money your already paying one way or another. And again, you cut out administrative costs, large pools have lower premimum costs, and you can't get bigger than everyone. We also know every single payer system pays out less than we do.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    The discussion was of the time period when GM lost it's greatest share of the market, you have shifted the goal posts, along with ignoring the subsidization the imports always had and our lack of protecting our industries. You did this before, you do it now, I expect you to continue. You refuse to learn anything.
    LOL.

    You know, I don't think I possess the type of brain required to engage with you. I think it best to leave you to your efforts.

    Thanks for taking the time to try.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It's money your already paying one way or another. And again, you cut out administrative costs, large pools have lower premimum costs, and you can't get bigger than everyone. We also know every single payer system pays out less than we do.
    I'm just asking you who would pay and how much...
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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    I think you are correct that there may not be a single right answer.

    For example, where does the effect of imported goods come into play, as it relates to increases in productivity, without an increase in wages?

    For example, to combat decreasing market share, and therefore decreasing revenues, the automobile industry fought with the UAW to increase productivity in order to lower fixed and variable labor costs attached to each car manufactured. With high wages, and lower productivity, US auto makers found it increasingly difficult to compete, and still have enough revenue to support R&D.

    Raw numbers would not account for this shift, but would reflect the increased gap, which could be misinterpreted.
    Ahhhhh yes, but there's a difference between what's good on the micro and what's good on the macro. Individual companies prosper when they get the most productivity for the least money. Economies are most successful when consumption is just under what can possibly be produced.

    If wages exceed productivity, you end up with stagflation. That's because demand overtakes supply, driving costs up without the proper mechanisms for investment and growth. This happened in the 70's. If wages lag productivity, you end up with our economy.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    So instead of reading the answer I've given twice already, you continue to ask?

    Okaaaaaaaay.

    I already have. Twice.

    You could have said that when I answered your question either of the two previous times. But at least you're finally stopping your nonsense.

    It's already gotten better.

    Btw, to everyone else...the question he refuses to answer is,

    Do you think this is a good jobs report - yes or no?

    And no, he has, to my sincere knowledge, not answered it - once or twice.

    It seems obvious he just doesn't want to but cannot just admit it.


    Why he refuses to type even a 'y' or an 'n' to end this; yet types hundreds of characters saying why he refuses to type one character ('y' or 'n') is beyond me.

    Pride I guess.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Actually, I think the world started before Reagan. The fact is, tens of thousands of factories have disappeared since FDR was President. It's undeniable.
    Just go into any store and see how many items are manufactured in this country. It's almost none.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    What a ridiculously ignorant statement.

    They do when they sign job killing bills like ObamaCare and Frank Dodd.

    They do when they mandate new regulations via FIAT that put bullseyes on American industries under the pretense of environmental catastrophe.

    They do when their FED appointee pumps TRILLIONS into the financial markets and loads up the Central bank books with toxic debt.

    They most certainly DO control economies.
    Nonsense.

    1. Do the regulations address a need or not. Be specific. And frankly, nothing loses American jobs more than having healthcare attached. You want American jobs? Easy. Remove health care and work fir cents on the dollar.

    2. The market loaded up toxic debt. It was a lack of regulation there.


    So, no, they do not control the economy.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Btw, to everyone else...the question he refuses to answer is,

    Do you think this is a good jobs report - yes or no?
    And to those same people, I'll point out I've already answered it twice. He even quoted one of my posts which contained my answer one of those times, even as he asked me the same question again. So it's not that I'm refusing to answer it, it's that I'm refusing to answer it a third time to someone who clearly isn't interested in reading my answer.

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