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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    You are at a dead end, you have no answer for the current economic condition, all of your answers are for conditions when the economy can absorb the excess labor. Gutting regulations does not spur demand.
    You are so blinded by the liberal ideology that you cannot see that the answer isn't in bigger govt, the answer is in a bigger private sector, not one growing a 1.8%. Cannot wait for you to begin crying when interest rates go up and the debt service which is now the fourth largest budget item becomes number one or two. Obamacare, more regulations, higher taxes don't spur economic growth and job creation, never will because private business cannot print money.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    And there you are, you want smaller govt.....so lets see the call for major defense spending cutbacks.
    The current expense budget is 800 billion dollars out of the 3.8 trillion dollar federal budget. how much do you want to cut and what effect with that have on Obama trillion dollar deficits. Does cutting the defense budget entirely balance the budget?

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Your idea of help is having federal tax dollars go to the states and when those tax dollars stop the state taking on that responsibility. You see liberals always love taking credit but never responsibility.

    My idea is that we have a private sector economy that Obama is trying to change and is doing so by creating more dependence on that govt. Record numbers on food stamps, record numbers on disability, record numbers on other taxpayer welfare programs. Yes, a liberal's dream world that destroys even good people like you because you are caught up in the lies.
    The private sector that shed no tears for the millions of people who lost their jobs because of the 2008 financial crash and rewarded corporate CEOs with Bonus's after they participated in the financial crash.

    I trust the private sector as much I trust a fox to protect my henhouse.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    How many people will have to suffer in the attempt to downsize our government?
    How many people are suffering now? I went through a number of private sector downsizings and survived them all. Wonder why? You have a distorted and dangerous view as to the role of the Federal Govt. in this country. Suggest you check out what is going on overseas where dependence on the govt. is great. The private sector will lessen the blow in this country of major govt. downsizing. Less money going to debt service means more money for the private sector to invest and less need for higher taxes thus more spendable income.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    As for budgets, you don't seem to have any concept as to the role of the Federal Govt. and the reality is that we don't need a 3.8 trillion dollar govt. except for liberal elites who want the power.

    As for budgets, you don't seem to have any concept as to the role of the Federal Govt. and the reality is that we don't need a 3.8 trillion dollar govt. except for liberal elites who want the power.

    1) Over the course of the Bush[43] administration there was a 72% increase in the national debt, from $5.7 trillion to $9.8 trillion – MOSTLY TRUE

    2) At the end of the Bush [43] administration, the U.S. had a $1.5 trillion budget deficit - TRUE

    SEN. MENENDEZ: And it’s not just talking about President Bush, it’s the policies that they espouse that are in essence Bush’s policies. Those led us to a 72 percent increase in the debt from $5.7 trillion to $9.8 trillion when Bush left. It led us to a massive elimination of the surplus that Bill Clinton gave George Bush, and he had a $1.5 trillion deficit when he left office

    1) According to the Treasury Department, when George W. Bush took office in 2001 the national debt was $5.73 trillion and when Bush left office in 2009, the national debt had increased to $10.63 trillion. That’s a 85% increase of $4.9 trillion. Sen. Menendez is off by 13%, but he is correct in the underlying message that the national debt did significantly increase under George W. Bush. Thus, we rate Sen. Menendez’s statement MOSTLY TRUE.

    2) According to the Congressional Budget Office, under former president Bill Clinton there was a budget surplus in 1999 ($1.9 billion) and in 2000 ($86.4 billion). But the surpluses in 1999 and 2000 were not enough to eliminate the national debt. When the federal government spends more money than it takes in, that’s a deficit. When the government takes in more money than it spends, that’s a surplus (Treasury Department budget FAQs). Though former president Bill Clinton had two consecutive surplus years, the U.S. national debt actually increased $400 billion over his term (1992 to 2000).

    When former president Bill Clinton left office in 2000 there was a $86.4 billion surplus. When former president George W. Bush left office in 2008 there was a $1.5 trillion budget deficit. Because Sen. Menendez was correct in stating that there was a $1.5 trillion budget deficit when George W. Bush left office and the budget surplus that Bill Clinton left from his presidency had turned into a deficit, we rate Sen. Menendez’s statement TRUE.
    FACT-CHECK: Sen. Bob Menendez – National debt increased 72% during the Bush admin, there was a 1.5 trillion budget deficit at the end of his term | Meet the Facts : Meet the Press Needs Fact-checking

    Was the role of the federal goverment different back then?

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    The private sector that shed no tears for the millions of people who lost their jobs because of the 2008 financial crash and rewarded corporate CEOs with Bonus's after they participated in the financial crash.

    I trust the private sector as much I trust a fox to protect my henhouse.
    That happens in a private sector economy, businesses should be allowed to succeed or fail on their own and stop rewarding bad behavior. I wasn't for TARP and never will be for rewarding that kind of behavior. Are we better off today? Your view of the private sector is also distorted. the engine that drives this economy isn't large businesses but rather the small businesses that regulations, Obamacare, and higher taxes is destroying. What you want to ignore is that hundreds of thousands of small businesses and independent contractors aren't counted as unemployed but are out of business because of Obamanomics. Your state is a disaster because of large govt. yet you want to spread that misery equally to everyone else.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Your idea of help is having federal tax dollars go to the states and when those tax dollars stop the state taking on that responsibility.
    Do you have the ability to write this as a complete sentence?

    You see liberals always love taking credit but never responsibility.
    Meaningless dribble following incomplete thoughts.

    My idea is that we have a private sector economy that Obama is trying to change and is doing so by creating more dependence on that govt. Record numbers on food stamps, record numbers on disability, record numbers on other taxpayer welfare programs. Yes, a liberal's dream world that destroys even good people like you because you are caught up in the lies.
    Obama did not cause the job losses, this is such moronic writing. You are not interested in increasing employment, your party is not interested in increasing employment and you won't acknowledge how we got this point nor do you have viable solutions for these conditions.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Was the role of the federal goverment different back then?
    Bush was fired in 2008 by the public rejecting Republicans. Bush added to much to the debt but Obama put that spending on steroids. Bush never had a 3.6 trillion dollar budget nor did he propose a 3.8 trillion dollar budget. National debt increased by 4.9 trillion dollars under Bush in 8 years, one trillion of which was attributed to 9/11. Obama has added 6.2 trillion in less than five years. You have an outrage over what Bush did but give Obama a pass. Do the economic numbers warrant adding 6.2 trillion to the debt?

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Do you have the ability to write this as a complete sentence?

    Meaningless dribble following incomplete thoughts.

    Obama did not cause the job losses, this is such moronic writing. You are not interested in increasing employment, your party is not interested in increasing employment and you won't acknowledge how we got this point nor do you have viable solutions for these conditions.
    Obama is causing the very poor economic recovery, stagnant job creation, and poor economic growth.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The current expense budget is 800 billion dollars out of the 3.8 trillion dollar federal budget. how much do you want to cut and what effect with that have on Obama trillion dollar deficits. Does cutting the defense budget entirely balance the budget?
    Uh, yes, cutting it will reduce the debt over time.

    But what I love is how you once again play both sides of the street, you are constantly pushing and pulling non-discretionary spending in and out of the budget numbers as it suits you.
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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